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Stand Buck
03-12-2009, 19:16
I have decided that I need a new waterproof smock and have narrowed it down to either a swazi or a nomad, anyone with a review or preferance either way?

cervushunter
03-12-2009, 19:49
Hi standbuck,
I have never owned a swazi but i bought a nomad quadrider smock three months ago, well worth the money so far but only time will tell, i have been in some real downpours and no water has got through. Well made and a small is actually a small unlike the swazi's which the small that i saw was more like a XXL :shock:
Not an issue if you are of a normal size but myself being a smidge larger than dwarf ewok 8) it can make all the difference.
Although i will admit that just going by looks i think the swazi will last longer.
Just my opinion.
Regards Mark.

biglad
03-12-2009, 20:15
I bought a nomad smock 3 years ago brilliant stuff out in all weathers.once you buy it you wont need to buy another for years it will out last you..The only drawback is the hood was big so i bought a full zip coat and wear a hat...thay are well worth the £225 price tag .Will get another eventualy when wears out.......

deer man
03-12-2009, 21:16
Get a nomad! wear a baseball or quick camo hat and when it pours it down hood up and it doesn't cover your eyes.

moses
03-12-2009, 22:36
Nomad is a good jacket and you won't get wet in it but, it will hold a lot of water and get heavy and can take an age to dry out.

The Swazi is a light anorak that needs to be layered up in cold weather with base layers and fleece etc... it is however extremely good in wet weather at keeping you dry and not holding water so drys very very quickly.

I would go for either the Swazi thar or if you want full zip instead of throw over get the Wapiti.

ATB
Moses

deer man
04-12-2009, 10:16
Nomad is a good jacket and you won't get wet in it but, it will hold a lot of water and get heavy and can take an age to dry out.
ATB
Moses

The advantage of the nomad is you run your hand over the fleece and the water is gone. ;)

moses
04-12-2009, 11:25
Nomad is a good jacket and you won't get wet in it but, it will hold a lot of water and get heavy and can take an age to dry out.
ATB
Moses

The advantage of the nomad is you run your hand over the fleece and the water is gone. ;)

Tell that to my mate who was wringing his out every night in Wicklow this week.

That was some extreme weather mind you, I'm sure it performs better when you're not lying in a burn for an hour.

ATB
Moses

N.F.W.M
04-12-2009, 22:03
I have both smocks, The Nomad is a very warm smock which is good for cold, windy weather with the odd shower. The Swazi Tahr is an outstanding piece of kit. Well designed with the best cuffs I've ever used, very breathable and waterproof. If I had to choose one it would be the Swazi, no question.

Sticks

greville1689
05-12-2009, 00:46
Nomad is a good jacket and you won't get wet in it but, it will hold a lot of water and get heavy and can take an age to dry out.



I would agree. The Nomad is pretty good, but I found too warm on the hill in normal conditions. It is waterproof but I found that damp did get through the seams. The cuffs eventually got wet and took a couple of days to dry. Quite happy, but only because I bought it in a clearance sale. RRP would be too much.

ross16689
05-12-2009, 00:58
Have a look at stoney creek New Zealand, I borrowed a lot of it when I was down under, same style and quality as swazi/nomad but miles cheaper. Have a look at the product reviews on www.mountainman.co.nz!

hunterscabin
05-12-2009, 18:11
nomad all the way

best clothing for any outdoor hunting :-D :-D

Thar
06-12-2009, 11:08
nomad all the way

best clothing for any outdoor hunting :-D :-D

Except if it raining, then you need Swazi. :lol: Shame the owner is so full of himself.

ATB

Tahr

hunterscabin
06-12-2009, 17:44
nomad all the way

best clothing for any outdoor hunting :-D :-D

Except if it raining, then you need Swazi. :lol: Shame the owner is so full of himself.

ATB

Tahr


i suggest you get your facts correct before you type messages
i am steve hunter, not phillip who does indeed own nomad
i however own a gun shop in aberdeenshire
yes i do sell the clothing

only because i have tried and tested it
i only sell products which i believe in not just cause there is profit


regards

steve

beno
06-12-2009, 19:41
Very interested in the nomad my self but got this niggling felling that the Harkila Pro Hunter would be better as more of an all rounder. Anyone got both that could shed some light on them?

hunterscabin
06-12-2009, 20:00
i have personally got both
had them since before i started the shop
after a couple of years the harkila looks better
but the nomads are half the weight and warmer

the choice is yours

Thar
06-12-2009, 20:48
i suggest you get your facts correct before you type messages
i am steve hunter, not phillip who does indeed own nomad
i however own a gun shop in aberdeenshire
yes i do sell the clothing

only because i have tried and tested it
i only sell products which i believe in not just cause there is profit


regards

steve

Steve read my post again, you have got the wrong end of the stick, I was talking about the the owner of Swazi :oops: :oops: .

Apology in order I think. :roll:

ATB

Tahr

Thar
06-12-2009, 20:49
site playing up, double post.

ATB

Tahr

hunterscabin
06-12-2009, 23:01
i will apologise however

why highlight my reply to you

anyway this is getting abit of topic for the original post

the nomad clothing is the best for the british climate

cheers

steve

Thar
06-12-2009, 23:28
i will apologise however

why highlight my reply to you

anyway this is getting abit of topic for the original post

the nomad clothing is the best for the british climate

cheers

steve

We are all entitled to our opinion, but some of us are not selling either brand. :???:

ATB

Tahr

jon2
07-12-2009, 12:04
Thar

Just for the record your original post made complete sense to me - as in, I understood you to mean the owner of Swazi.

Claret_Dabbler
07-12-2009, 14:44
Thar

Just for the record your original post made complete sense to me - as in, I understood you to mean the owner of Swazi.

+1

Bit of a hair trigger there Steve?

Dickie
07-12-2009, 22:10
I got the Swazi when in NZ with work, it's a really good smock and I used it in some very heavy rain, I don't know how long it would last crawling through heather I cant comment on the Nomad.
you only got to look at the cattledog to agree with Thar
Jon2 hows that 25-06 doing
cheers

Dickie

yetidude69
07-12-2009, 23:27
buy both jkts then all scenarios are covered!:) Can defo recommend the swazi clothing to keep you nice and dry from the elements! only downside tho is in humid wet conditions if your covering ground you will get wet from the inside from your sweat as goretex is useless!
Also highly recommend the stoney creek clothing! amazing value for money!

James

buck52
17-12-2009, 13:44
Nomad every time, I do have a swazi as well, the nomad is light as a feather & totally wind & waterproof, had nomad kit for 8 years now and it still performs better that any other stuff I have.

MJR
17-12-2009, 16:29
What do you guys do without pockets :???: I looked at a Nomad at the game fair and was impressed but was put off by lack of pockets, am I missing something :???:

hunterscabin
17-12-2009, 22:26
it depends on what jacket you saw

the hooded smock has a internal breast pocket and 2 small pockets on the front

quadrider has a large pouch to hold your binos

what do you really need to carry with you for a days stalking?

if you need any more info please give me a shout

cheers

steve

MJR
18-12-2009, 11:24
what do you really need to carry with you for a days stalking?

Blimey, where do I start. Obvious things like knife, gloves,drag line,phone,first aid kit,head torch if afternoon stalk,spare ammo etc etc. No Nomad do a zipped version and does that have internal pockets :???:

deer man
18-12-2009, 16:29
Use a bum bag like the rest of us!

glogin
18-12-2009, 16:47
Use a bum bag like the rest of us!

Oh, you bums! (With your bags........) :lol: :lol: :lol:

hunterscabin
18-12-2009, 17:24
what do you really need to carry with you for a days stalking?

Blimey, where do I start. Obvious things like knife, gloves,drag line,phone,first aid kit,head torch if afternoon stalk,spare ammo etc etc. No Nomad do a zipped version and does that have internal pockets :???:

i dont want to sound daft but
knife : on belt
gloves on yer hands
ammo :in the pocket of you rifle bag
head torch:shoot it properly within day light hours

as for the hill zip smock i will check the pockets

JCon
18-12-2009, 23:04
Use a bum bag like the rest of us!

Or a roe sack. That way you can dump the load if you need to.

mudman
19-12-2009, 09:18
I have a zippered Nomad jacket, bought it at this years game fair, I liked the idea of the smock but hate hoods on coats so had to go for the zip option. Very happy with it so far, two good deep conventional pockets on the outside. On the insdie there is one pocket with a zipper and another with a velcro fastening. Almost forgot there is also a large 'game' pocket across the kidny area.

Only (minor) complaint with it is that it is too warm for summer work, but that is what I would expect from a decent fleece.

JCon
19-12-2009, 10:05
I have a zippered Nomad jacket, bought it at this years game fair, I liked the idea of the smock but hate hoods on coats so had to go for the zip option. Very happy with it so far, two good deep conventional pockets on the outside. On the insdie there is one pocket with a zipper and another with a velcro fastening. Almost forgot there is also a large 'game' pocket across the kidny area.

Only (minor) complaint with it is that it is too warm for summer work, but that is what I would expect from a decent fleece.

I too have that Nomad 3 season fleece as well as their stalkers coat both have plenty of pockets and have proved to be excellent at keeping the water out. They also dry very quickly if you happen to have to spend the day in inclement weather.

They are both very warm. something I'll not be complaining about later on today whilst sat in one of my high seats.

MJR
20-12-2009, 11:27
knife : on belt - Don't like dangly knives on a belt
gloves on yer hands - not for warmth, for gralloch
ammo :in the pocket of you rifle bag - spare mag in pocket
head torch:shoot it properly within day light hours - I never shoot after dark unless lamping vermin. I use a head torch as sometimes it drops too dark after an afternoon stalk while extracting a shot beast. Have you never experienced this :???:

Thanks for the other replies guys, I'll have a look at the zipped smock.

Thar
20-12-2009, 14:42
knife : on belt - Don't like dangly knives on a belt
gloves on yer hands - not for warmth, for gralloch
ammo :in the pocket of you rifle bag - spare mag in pocket
head torch:shoot it properly within day light hours - I never shoot after dark unless lamping vermin. I use a head torch as sometimes it drops too dark after an afternoon stalk while extracting a shot beast. Have you never experienced this :???:

Thanks for the other replies guys, I'll have a look at the zipped smock.

Of course if you stalk on a FC lease you need a small rucksack to carry all the equipment, first aid kit, Survival blanket, spade to bury gralloch, harness for removing large deer with a drag bag, bringsel/collar for your dog and head touch to get into position in a high seat before first light :lol: etc etc.

sakotrg
15-01-2010, 18:12
Well I am glad to report that I wore my Nomad Quadrider fleece and trousers in the recent cold spell up here in Scotland with temperatures dropping to -9 Deg C and cannot fault the clothing.
On one occaision I had artic white cottons over the top for crawling through the snow and even after sitting for 30 minutes at a time, I was never uncomfortable.

Amhuinnsuidhe
18-01-2010, 13:09
Swazi Thar Anorak everytime, the best item of clothing that I own for hill stalking. An incredibly well thought out coat. When on the hill I just wear a Swazi micro shirt and my Thar anorak and Swazi dri-back pants. Almost sounds like an advert for Swazi!
http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq230/Amhuinnsuidhe/Humpingstag.jpg
Perfect for stopping the blood going down the back of your neck.

Sooty
18-01-2010, 16:25
Is there any UK stockists that can supply the Dri Back pants or other Swazi trousers?
Or do they ship to the UK off the Swazi web site??

Amhuinnsuidhe
18-01-2010, 16:32
Bush wear used to but don't now, they may still be able to if you asked though.
I usually get any Kiwis that I employ in the summer to bring some across when they come over, saves a fortune!

JT

2428 miles
19-01-2010, 13:00
Iím sure we have discussed this previously but anyway, I bought a hooded Nomad smock with the full length Zip at the Game Fair this year.
Quite a lot of cash and as someone else said I was very tempted by the Harkilla kit which in my opinion make the best trousers available.
In the end went for the smock due to its length.
I have worn it a lot, in filthy pouring rain all day and was perfectly dry, the only one in the party I might add.

Also, interestingly, as someone mentioned, Gore Tex, whilst it is the best us humans have come up with to date actually does not breath that well.
In fairness to manufacturers, the human body is an incredible thing, and no man made clothing is going to be able to compete with how the body regulates temperature. So one is always going to sweat when heaving up a hill and get cold from the damp shirt on your back when you stop.

That said, the Nomad really does breath, but to an extent. I had a dew on my back where I was perspiring and it was working its way through and condensing in the cold air outside for all to see!

Very warm in the cold weather we have just had and wind proof too.

I do like the cuffs of the Swazi though.

flytie
21-01-2010, 15:56
As an interested observer, who is thinking of purchasing a jacket/smock soon, I wonder if you all think that the Swazi is worth £100+ more than the Nomad?

At the moment I use a Deerhunter Montana with a zip in fleece for highseat work and a Harkila Mountain Grouse for stalking while walking and would like something slightly more durable than the Harkila.

Decisions, decisions ;)

ft

Amhuinnsuidhe
21-01-2010, 16:52
Fortunately i bought mine whilst i was in NZ so there wasn't a great deal to think about!

wicklow202
21-01-2010, 17:16
On the Swazi site the Swazi Thar in Olive is available at approx 200 sterling plus approx 30 for delivery.

A few lads i know use swazi and swear by it, one uses the swazi wapiti jacket and is very impressed by it.

wicklow202