CRNOKRUG1969
New Member
Hy guys.
Please understand thas this thread isnt contribution to already bad reputation of this guy and his Company ;it is our duty to warn all other fellow shooters and posible victoms of Peter Lincoln and Roedale Precision company.
In March 2013. We orderd two rifles from Roedale Precision ; one was Howa brreled action without stock and the other was Avenger II barreled action with AICS 2.0 stock both in 6.5 x47 Lapua caliber.
The first rifle was for the friend of mine and the second one was for me . Both of us are ex military war veterans and competition shooters. The reason why We choose mr. Lincoln was because We heard that He spent some time in the Army
Total price was 6.500,00 Eur and delivery time was 6-8 weeks after the barrels arrive from Lothar Walter company . The barrels came after 12 weeks so total time should have been 20 weeks or 5 months.
We payed 3.000,00 Eur deposit and helped him with importing parts ( that had needed to be installed on this rifles) so We can save His time. We bought , imported and shipped to him spare parts for 850.00 euros. ( 2 Badger thruster brakes, 1 set of AI side pannels ,1x Surgeon butt plate , Accushot BTO8 monopod etc ...)
All the custom work on Avenger II rifle was to fitt the anschutz trigger , Budger thruster brake and Surgeon tactical bolt knob)
Alltogether 7.350,00 eur or ( at that time 2013. ) 9.900,00 $.
We were patience for 12 months after that problems started !
Week after week ; moth after month We called this company and Peter ensured Us the the rifles are nearly finished .
Finnaly after 17 months He informed Us that the rifles are finished ,and asked Us topay the rest of the total 6.500,00 eur price . We made that payment.
In December 2014, (20 months after) We started to be really concerned , he started arguing with Us on the phone and we informed Him that We will come to His workshop to check what is going on.
He started swearing to Us and hung up the phone.
Next day his employee Scott contacted us and apologize for His boss behavior ; explaining that he has some serius health problems ,too much work , too many phone calls ..... etc A 4 sheet of all the same excuses that You can find reading the forums posts related to Roedale Precision in the past ...
We found out that the work on our rifles isnt even started !!!!
He begged for litlle more time and promised that We are no. 1 priority to them.
after that there were problems with the installing trigger , currier delivery time , IWA show... .
After 24 months , Peter Lincoln informed us: that the delivery time is 36 months , that some customers even wait for 5 years ; and are very happy because of his brilliant gunsmithing craftsmanship and that He cant do anything about it !!!!
In may 2015. We droved to his workshop in Hasbergen ,Germany to finaly meet this guy . It was back-and-forth ; 3.400 km . trip .
The friend who ordered the second rifle is three times wounded war veteran , who can barely stand driving that long .
When We arrived We saw the van parked outside the workshop .The guy was moving .
We came inside , all the place was in chaos . when He finaly recnognized Us he started to be nervous.
He told Us that one rifle is at proof house in Koln and for the other rifle he will return the money ,
butt he doesent have the money right away because he had flood in his store.
All the time he couldnt look us in the eyes .
When we asked to give Us some proof of of this or we will call the police .He refused .
We called the cops. German Police came and made a report about all that . After that thay forced Him to wrote down and verifie the document - statement in wich he commit that He will deliver one rifle and return the rest of the money in next two weeks(before 17 June 2015).
We requested to give Us back the parts that we imported and sent to him ; he refused.
That date has expired and He crossed us one more time.
After 27 months of waiting , missed championships , huderds of international phone calls , probaly 20 statements that the rifles are finished , hundred e-mails , and thousands of lies,
We ended up Ripped Off for almost 10.000 $
I know that many of you wont bealive what We have been throuh!
Peter will probably write down fiew dozens of lyric sheets explaining his reasons .
Butt please take note of this:
The guy is obviously patological liar and because of that He is dangerus !
Basicly : He takes the money from new custemers ( promising them 6-8 weeks delivery time ) with that money He service his business and the old customers that are already waiting for couple of years ;than delays those new customers for next couple of years . All that He once did in UK and now He is doing it in Germany .
I hope German people will not tolerate this kind of criminal behavior on their ground.
We sold our claim to gun trading company in Germany who will file a lawsuit against mr. Lincoln and his company.
Please understand thas this thread isnt contribution to already bad reputation of this guy and his Company ;it is our duty to warn all other fellow shooters and posible victoms of Peter Lincoln and Roedale Precision company.
In March 2013. We orderd two rifles from Roedale Precision ; one was Howa brreled action without stock and the other was Avenger II barreled action with AICS 2.0 stock both in 6.5 x47 Lapua caliber.
The first rifle was for the friend of mine and the second one was for me . Both of us are ex military war veterans and competition shooters. The reason why We choose mr. Lincoln was because We heard that He spent some time in the Army
Total price was 6.500,00 Eur and delivery time was 6-8 weeks after the barrels arrive from Lothar Walter company . The barrels came after 12 weeks so total time should have been 20 weeks or 5 months.
We payed 3.000,00 Eur deposit and helped him with importing parts ( that had needed to be installed on this rifles) so We can save His time. We bought , imported and shipped to him spare parts for 850.00 euros. ( 2 Badger thruster brakes, 1 set of AI side pannels ,1x Surgeon butt plate , Accushot BTO8 monopod etc ...)
All the custom work on Avenger II rifle was to fitt the anschutz trigger , Budger thruster brake and Surgeon tactical bolt knob)
Alltogether 7.350,00 eur or ( at that time 2013. ) 9.900,00 $.
We were patience for 12 months after that problems started !
Week after week ; moth after month We called this company and Peter ensured Us the the rifles are nearly finished .
Finnaly after 17 months He informed Us that the rifles are finished ,and asked Us topay the rest of the total 6.500,00 eur price . We made that payment.
In December 2014, (20 months after) We started to be really concerned , he started arguing with Us on the phone and we informed Him that We will come to His workshop to check what is going on.
He started swearing to Us and hung up the phone.
Next day his employee Scott contacted us and apologize for His boss behavior ; explaining that he has some serius health problems ,too much work , too many phone calls ..... etc A 4 sheet of all the same excuses that You can find reading the forums posts related to Roedale Precision in the past ...
We found out that the work on our rifles isnt even started !!!!
He begged for litlle more time and promised that We are no. 1 priority to them.
after that there were problems with the installing trigger , currier delivery time , IWA show... .
After 24 months , Peter Lincoln informed us: that the delivery time is 36 months , that some customers even wait for 5 years ; and are very happy because of his brilliant gunsmithing craftsmanship and that He cant do anything about it !!!!
In may 2015. We droved to his workshop in Hasbergen ,Germany to finaly meet this guy . It was back-and-forth ; 3.400 km . trip .
The friend who ordered the second rifle is three times wounded war veteran , who can barely stand driving that long .
When We arrived We saw the van parked outside the workshop .The guy was moving .
We came inside , all the place was in chaos . when He finaly recnognized Us he started to be nervous.
He told Us that one rifle is at proof house in Koln and for the other rifle he will return the money ,
butt he doesent have the money right away because he had flood in his store.
All the time he couldnt look us in the eyes .
When we asked to give Us some proof of of this or we will call the police .He refused .
We called the cops. German Police came and made a report about all that . After that thay forced Him to wrote down and verifie the document - statement in wich he commit that He will deliver one rifle and return the rest of the money in next two weeks(before 17 June 2015).
We requested to give Us back the parts that we imported and sent to him ; he refused.
That date has expired and He crossed us one more time.
After 27 months of waiting , missed championships , huderds of international phone calls , probaly 20 statements that the rifles are finished , hundred e-mails , and thousands of lies,
We ended up Ripped Off for almost 10.000 $
I know that many of you wont bealive what We have been throuh!
Peter will probably write down fiew dozens of lyric sheets explaining his reasons .
Butt please take note of this:
The guy is obviously patological liar and because of that He is dangerus !
Basicly : He takes the money from new custemers ( promising them 6-8 weeks delivery time ) with that money He service his business and the old customers that are already waiting for couple of years ;than delays those new customers for next couple of years . All that He once did in UK and now He is doing it in Germany .
I hope German people will not tolerate this kind of criminal behavior on their ground.
We sold our claim to gun trading company in Germany who will file a lawsuit against mr. Lincoln and his company.