do or not to do!!!
i shot this chap monday morning and have made a few calls now and dont no either cut it and put on the wall or have it measured there is still some velvet but the pearling is amazing dont care if it not a medal because its a cracking head either way would just like your thorts
I think you have answered your own question Lee-stroud, if you dont care if it is not a medal then dont get it measured, hang it on your wall with pride.
lol i get what your saying but if it was to make 1 ill kick my self for cutting it just wanted others thorts
Originally Posted by skippy1001
Lee. If you think it might make a medal first thing to do is weigh it, if its over 500grams it may possibly make a medal, if under 500 it wont, you will lose a bit of weight over the 3 months as it dries out, so you need to allow for that.
Having done that and you still think it could be a medal, if you wish I could post the measuring formula, that would give you an idea if its worth having officially measured or not.
That cut would be a classed as a full skull and would have a deduction of 65gms min, it would need to be 90 days old before it could be measured officially.
It certainly looks a contender for a medal, but whatever you do,do not colour the antlers where the velvet has been..
If you take it to one of the BASC tents at any of the gamefairs they are offering a measuring service.
Or if you want I can give you list of the official measurers and where they are based.
hi griff that would be great mate if you dont mind and i have been told to leave any velvet left as when fully dry it weighs nothing any way
Originally Posted by griff
that formula mite be of use to thank you bogtrotter
Originally Posted by bogtrotter
Lee. Just to correct my earlier post I said if it weighed less than 500 grams it would not make medal status, I should have said unlikely to make a medal.
Here is a some what simplified trophy assessment, but will give you an idea if its worth having officially assessed.
1 Length. measure from the outside lower edge of the burr following the outside of the burr and the top surface to the beam and then up the beam following all curvature but over spanning the pearling up to the upper tine tip, add both lengths together
take average then divide by two this figure is points.
2 Weight. divide by ten this figure is points.
3 Volume this is determined by immersing the antlers only in water but not the skull or pedicles [ you will need an elastic band and a set of spring balance type scales to do this] subtract this weight from the overall weight then divide by ten then
multiply by three this figure is points.
4 Inside span. this is measured at the widest point between the main beams.
very narrow span less than 30% of average length of beam no points
narrow 30.01% to 35% one point
average 35.01% to 40% two points
good 40.01% to 45% three points
very good 45.01 to 75% four points
abnormal more than 75% no points
Award for beauty points.
pale no points
yellow or pale brown one point
light brown two points
dark brown three points
dark to almost black four points
smooth no points
week pearling one point
average pearling two points
good pearling [pearling on each side of the beam] three points
very good pearling four points
week no points
average one point
good two points
strong three points
very strong four points
blunt and poorly developed no points
blunt and of medium development one point
pointed and white tipped two points
up to five points can be added for quality of tines , of which up to three points will be reserved for regularity, and up to two points for quality.
up to five points can be deducted of which three can be deducted for unspecified abnormalities
and up to two for tine defects, tines absent or very short two points deducted
mediocre tines or from one beam only one point deducted.
Medal scores. 105.00 - 114.99 Bronze
115.00 - 129.99 Silver
130 and over Gold
Hope this is of some help to you.
If you get the head measured by cic and it doesn't make a medal i don't think they will charge you for the measuring and you can still cut it after it has been measured. it's always best to leave it full skull for measuring. I personally would see if it was going to make the grade before cutting.
Last edited by daverl; 17-04-2010 at 14:20.
http://www.cic-wildlife.org/uploads/media/red_book.pdf Lee you will find that if it makes over 450 it is a contender that is the 360 plus the 90 deduction nice looking head and should score well if the weight is there and thats were the most points come from.