I went to Cabela's today and they were having a super sale. They had Vortex 8.5 x 50 binos for $139. $100 off. I usually don't buy the cheap stuff, nothing less than Leupold, however, this was a no brainer. Very clear and sharp, waterproof with a lifetime guarantee. If your not rolling in it, this might be a good bino for you. A tad bit big, but for the price, it cant be beat. It's twilight here now and I just used them to see the pine cones on a Doug fir about 400 yards away.