Refugees go home, after.
Migrants come from Denmark and Germany and call them themselves English.
Us Celts call them Immigrants.
Stan
After an initial wave of sympathy it now seems that Europe is now taking-up an increased "protectionist" stand.
(Based on the news today)
This, in spite of Europe denying Cameron's "quota" proposals.
Do forum members see this as a step forward?
I'm curious: every now and then an SD member announces that they've had enough of of the UK for various reasons, and heads of to Australia or New Zealand (usually).
They are almost always given a warm send off, and are accompanied by a lot of wailing about how things are going to the dogs here. Yet we have plenty to eat and are in no risk of being bombed raped or tortured by our own government.
So could someone explain to me the difference between Brits emigrating to the Antipodes in search of better opportunities for themselves and Syrians fleeing a devastating war? Clearly one is an economic opportunist and the other a desperate refugee, but I'm confused about which.
Oh wait - the Syrians tend to be brown and worship a different god. Dead giveaway...
No need to be confused when you move the aus or Canada or the like there's a points system where you need a trade / skill that shows you can contribute to the system there , still I'm sure it's all going to be fine I bet every single one of the Syrian / other migrants is a doctor or engineer happy daysI'm curious: every now and then an SD member announces that they've had enough of of the UK for various reasons, and heads of to Australia or New Zealand (usually).
They are almost always given a warm send off, and are accompanied by a lot of wailing about how things are going to the dogs here. Yet we have plenty to eat and are in no risk of being bombed raped or tortured by our own government.
So could someone explain to me the difference between Brits emigrating to the Antipodes in search of better opportunities for themselves and Syrians fleeing a devastating war? Clearly one is an economic opportunist and the other a desperate refugee, but I'm confused about which.
Oh wait - the Syrians tend to be brown and worship a different god. Dead giveaway...
Oh wait - the Syrians tend to be brown and worship a different god. Dead giveaway...
I'm curious: every now and then an SD member announces that they've had enough of of the UK for various reasons, and heads of to Australia or New Zealand (usually).
They are almost always given a warm send off, and are accompanied by a lot of wailing about how things are going to the dogs here. Yet we have plenty to eat and are in no risk of being bombed raped or tortured by our own government.
So could someone explain to me the difference between Brits emigrating to the Antipodes in search of better opportunities for themselves and Syrians fleeing a devastating war? Clearly one is an economic opportunist and the other a desperate refugee, but I'm confused about which.
Oh wait - the Syrians tend to be brown and worship a different god. Dead giveaway...
I'm curious: every now and then an SD member announces that they've had enough of of the UK for various reasons, and heads of to Australia or New Zealand (usually).
Oh wait - the Syrians tend to be brown and worship a different god. Dead giveaway...
Yes, you need to be a skilled person and have a job to move to Canada or Australia or New Zealand, the last time one of my friends moved there. In fact, I think all of them required you to bring $250,000 cash if you were an artist, writer, or musician, as one of my gun writer friends had to do.No need to be confused when you move the aus or Canada or the like there's a points system where you need a trade / skill that shows you can contribute to the system there , still I'm sure it's all going to be fine I bet every single one of the Syrian / other migrants is a doctor or engineer happy days
In my opinion, and those of a lot of others, a very large percentage of these people are economic migrants who are looking to Europe to give them a far better standard of living than they currently have. Many have disposed of their true identification and are claiming to be from Syria as they believe that they will be more sympathetically delt with.
Establishing safe zones would would have required "boots on the ground", something that after the Blair-Bush fiascos just about all governments have been **** scared to do. Don't forget that the British Parliament voted specifically against involvement in Syria. And we are one of the most 'active' members of the EU...It was likely that a migration on this sort of scale was going to happen - in fact you would have to have been away on a desert island not to have predicted this as a probability. So what happened to pre-planning as there has been for bird- flu, and other major events. The point here was to NOT allow it to happen in the first place and by allowing the migration, to then change view, is the worst possible approach.
Keep them safe in their own country whoever they are. The EU should have established 'safe zones' and taken true asylum seekers from those safe zones, if they felt obligated, in my mind. Then they should have taken out all the people traffickers as summary executions. Its not about the fact that these people are black or green,its just the sheer numbers, their effect on 'European economics' and who might be amongst them. You simply cant personalise it as most are just looking for food, safety and some certainty in life and a reliable education for their children.
Its a good job we dont have a left leaning government, even if the one we have is poor.