What happens when you don't bond with your dog?

teyhan1

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I own a Teckel.
I use the term 'own' because I am not sure that I really do own him. I am the one that he listens too and normally can get him to come back if he is within 50m or so. Past that distance forget it.
I aquired 'Extra' as he was then called as a 3 month old pup. I made sure that he was chipped before I got him, changed his name to 'Dexter' and gave him his jabs when required.
I have now had Dexter for 3 years.
However last year he started going walk about. He would throw himself over a 3ft fence. Then we moved house. He escaped. He was found. He escaped again. He was found again. He escaped again. And was found again.
Last night when I let him out for his last wee of the night. I was chatting on the phone to a friend and he came in and went out again. I kept an eye on him. Just lately he has been good as gold, going out and coming in when called. Always being watched from distance to make sure he didn't go AWOL again.
The last time he went I said that was it. I wanted nothing more to do with a dog that had no pack instinct. But slowly he was working his way back in to my affections.
Now this time I don't want him back.

I wonder if he ever really bonded with me.
 
Similar to our cocker, Willow.
I am the one that gets the most reaction out of her.
She learnt how to get out past a lot of plant pots with saplings growing in them and thro a small gap just big enough for her body.

Any way, we had her spayed about 3wks ago.
Willow looked really sorry for herself and was pampered stupid by my girls
At the end of the first week she was pawing at the back door so I let her out.
I thought she hasn't been out for her morning walk so I better take her.
Went back to get my shoes, jacket and her lead.
Came out and she was gone!
Houdini with the Collar of Shame had managed to negotiate the obstacle course and escape.

I found her on the grass the other side of the next door neighbours!
Feeling sorry for herself my bahooky! She was having us on!!

But once they get inside you - you just can't let them go - they become part of the family no matter how obstinate they are!!
 
But once they get inside you - you just can't let them go - they become part of the family no matter how obstinate they are!!

Not me. The thought of another maybe 15 years of this crap doesn't bear thinking about.
The wife and one of the boys are sad. It'll soon pass.
 
I'm sure I'll get slated for this but if you don't bond with the dog I'd try and find him a new home he might just want to be on his own, one man and his dog style. Dogs as pets are fine but if you want him to work and can't trust him you'll never get the best out of him. Can you see your self with him for the next ten years.
Your choice but from the sound of it if he ran off again you might not really be that sad which I think says alot
 
hi feller hope all is well
Easy to find out if he likes you mty leave him alone see how he reacts to you not being around ? if he hate's you get rid as per SJ you can't win them all :tiphat:
 
Evening all
My terrier was almost exactly the same as your Teckel we initially thought it was down to him thinking with his other brains rather than have his nuts off I had him implanted I forget what the vet called it will find out if you want! But it was great as soon as the testosterone level had dropped his obedience and manners became brilliant opposed to the ignorant sod he was. I'm not sure he was after a leg over, it just seems that his levels were way to high!
 
Dogs are just like humans, we don't like everybody so why should dogs. I would get rid of it, not a fan of getting dogs castrated unless there is a medical reason.
 
I have had my black lab for 12 years and the bloody thing is just not trust worthy. I have to take him for a walk within fenced fields or he would be off into the next county. Rather oddly I have a red deer calf that wont leave my side. I take her for a walk and never worry about her running off. Its brilliant. Much rather have her with me than the dog.
 
Not sure what to make of this thread? Have you taken your dog to a professional trainer? A lot of people don't like to hear it, but generally the problem is with the person, not the dog. If you can't be bothered, fair enough as its hard work then better off giving it to somebody who can give it the time. Dachshunds are low on the intelligence scale so expecting them to perform obedience like a GSP takes "A LOT" of work.
 
I would go to see a decent pro trainer.

The problem u have is u have a teckel (no ofence to teckel owners here) but it is always going to have tendancies to do this. They were bred as hunting/scent dogs where 2 of the best characteristics are good nose and stubborness so it stays 'on track' and won't give up.
That is never going to make for an easy ride

While some of the bred may be quite good they are never going to be easily trained or very obediant to other breeds standards, just depends how hard headed ur dog is.
A decent trainer may help.
Another thing that may help is an e collar (take advice of trainer) or even an e fence never really heard of them being used but may work.
While many might not like the idea pf an e collar used correctly it may help

As long as decent with kids and stock friendly it ould be rehomed, but i'd say any dog with aggression/stock issue's is mibee better to 'balance' it.
Might not be the done thing nowadays but used to be far more common to do it with any dog not up to standard, and u didnae have pounds sitting full of unwanted dogs.
 
Used an Ecollar for mine as both had a tendency to chase stock for months. The Ecollar sorted that out in one day. I use the Ecollar on the wirehair when hunting as does my mate with his GWP. The dogs soon understand what is acceptable ranging and what is not. If you are going to hunt the dachshund like beagle then don't use one, if you are going to use it like a HPR dog then use one.
 
I have a few teckel's and they all listen well and I've had no problem with them wandering off I can let them hunt a gorse bank out of sight and they will return when called you can always get one rotten apple in a barrel a bad dog will eat as much as a good dog if it's a working dog it must earn its living
 
I'm not sure the Op is saying the dogs not working, its just not good on the recall which for me is a training issue.
 
Tried an electric collar, even tried it on myself first as I don't believe you should use anything like that unless your willing to try it first. No, didn't work.
Tried being horribly nice. He then thought that he could take the **** even more and do what he wanted.
Tried being horrible. No, he would go and hide.
He would never sit with me in the evening, if there was anybody else in the house.
Anyway, no sign of him 36 hrs in. Vets, dog warden and posted online, no one has seen him, which is never a good sign.
 
I think he just doesn't like you to be honest. I suppose, like humans, they can just not "get on with" certain folk for no particular reason ?
 
An e collar or fence won't cure this problem, when he returns give him away. You'll both be happier
 
I would go to see a decent pro trainer.

The problem u have is u have a teckel (no ofence to teckel owners here) but it is always going to have tendancies to do this. They were bred as hunting/scent dogs where 2 of the best characteristics are good nose and stubborness so it stays 'on track' and won't give up.
That is never going to make for an easy ride

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A true sTatment in a nut shell about teckels. I have three. They are stubborn, hard working and when they get in a zone I swear they can become deff. But credit where it's due they bloody work hard when on a scent ttrails. Mine will self correct if they loose the line.

I think you already no the answear. These are not easy dogs, anyone think they are wrong. But they are Truely rewarding. I've got one on my lap, one in his basket and the other on the fire half next to the wood burner.
 
Tried being horribly nice. He then thought that he could take the **** even more and do what he wanted.
Tried being horrible. No, he would go and hide.
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One thing with a teckel/hound is you can't chastise one like you can get away with the likes of a spaniel or labrador they'll hold it against you I no through experience. Patience of a saint is needed. Wise methods need to be used.
 
I've had enough dogs over enough years to know some dogs are just ****s! Like people, some dogs are just wrong'uns. Get rid, if you don't like each other what's the point? Might seem harsh but if you've tried you've tried. Just remember, anyone who's dog goes walk about, if say it causes an accident, I'm sure you'd be liable.
 
I cannot help with your situation but this is a really good post for anyone wanting a specialist dog because they all have these tendencies which are like no normal dogs lol.
stubborness is needed in dogs like these to succeed and be independent of a handler when needed but a strong bond must be there to work together when the time comes.
It really takes owning a dog like these to fully understand the frustration that comes but it takes hard work to get to the other side.
being hard never works for this type of dog and only drives a wedge between the two.
patience of a saint is needed and carful manipulation to get your own goals I really feel for you and understand what you are going through but sometimes it all falls into place and you sit wondering what it was all about.
Some dogs though are a law all of there own, I wish you all the best Wayne.
 
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