Brithunter
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Yes I do I was asked by the people who invited me over to Missouri to shoot a nice clean carcase for a friend of theirs who was ill and unable to make the hunting season in 2003 when this occured. I watched this deer come through the wood on the opposite side of the creek come down the bank and across a sand bar and up the bank my side. I was standing in a small group of trees on the bank the deer came up the bank and stopped to check it was clear. The clearing was about 16 feet wide then thick sapling brush:-
The deer was shot to the left of this photo as this is looking away from the creek.
As he paused I shot and he dropped. I waited a moment before reaching down to pick up my day pack and walk the short distance towards him when he suddenly got up. He jumped half way across the clearing and I snatched a shot whilst dropping the pack and he went down but got up almost right away. To say I was shocked is an understatement . There was some urgency to drop the deer quickly as if it got into that scrub it was going to be fun to even get a shot luckily for me it stopped swaying before reaching the scrub and had turned slightly so shot #3 followed and connected. The deer did not reach it into the scrub and you can see how close that is. Sorry I did not think to time it from start to finish .
Sorry to say I no longer have any photos of this button buck.
Now mr Brown,
Yes it did take 4 shots and I don't know why it did but I can only report what happened. Meanwhile someone who is working on the theory that Hydrostaic shock is what kills in stalking of shooting well the knowledge shown is woefully lacking and I stick to that point. Shock is not even understood medically I believe? However if it was shock that killed we would all be using highly frangable bullets at hyper velocities and having no need for exit wounds for blood trails. I believe My Weatherby alluded to this theory and made a fortune selling it to others with very varible results and often poor results .A while back someone wrote in to comment that they were unhappy with the agressive and rude tone some posters were taking in their replies to questions. I had to agree with him. I have met many excellent lads through this site and have given a lot of folk chances to stalk unfamiliar species of deer to them. This has been very rewarding.
I was disappointed to read comments directed at the starter of this thread telling him to give up stalking and describing his knowledge as woefully lacking. That from someone who then shows his own shortcomings and ineptitude by admitting to needing to put 4 shots into the head of a deer to kill it. I hope the antis arnt reading this. David
Of course as it offends some in future only perfect results will be reported as per the shooting magazine and the gun whores rabblings.
The OP said this:-
I understand bullets kill quickly by sending a hydraulic shock wave via the blood to vital centers of the hindbrain. The brain can auto regulate minor changes in Blood Pressure but a bullet strike is like a JCB, with its ram half extended running into something with its bucket, this peaks the Hydraulic pressure
Despite his experience dealing with GSW's no mention of the mechanical damage or that caused by secondary projectiles from bullet fragmentaion (the front mushrooming) or bone splinters. Clearly saying it's the hydraulic pulse which we know is not the case in most deer shot. Ass everal others have pointed out Deer will run after beign shot sometimes, they're dead on their feet but they still run!
Of course I am not a Doctor just a shooter/collector and deer stalker however I find it rather hard to understand that Three bullet paths, all well above jaw line failed to connect with anything other than air filled sinuses , but it seems that I managed it . Yes on hindsight I should have chest shot it after it got back up the first time but a clean carcase was asked for and that was provided. The person it was for was very pleased indeed I am told. I have heard of other "headshot deer" getting back up and so I will not trust head shots anymore.
Now over to the experts .