reiver
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And when the police/firearms registry gets hacked and the data of where your keys and address is to be utilised by the crims?
Leaving your place to be open house!
I wouldnt be telling them anything re keys.
And when the police/firearms registry gets hacked and the data of where your keys and address is to be utilised by the crims?
Leaving your place to be open house!
I wouldnt be telling them anything re keys.
No...your FEO's idea is FUNDAMENTALLY WRONG and puts the both of you in a very compromised position indeed and gives your security arrangements potentially open to leaching to an inappropriate source. And despite people making it clear...you still think this is a cool idea. Really...I am shocked.So u think its better to have all ur keys in 1 safe?
No.....who says they have to be kept in one place or a safe at all. They need to be adequately concealed against accidental discovery and determined search. Nothing wrong with a 2nd safe elswhere either. My guns are in one and bolts and ammo are in another
I have thought about this but then looked at clips of just how easy it is to break into most of the cheaper safes. I doubt most thieves/burgulars would waste the time searching throu every drawer and cupboard to find keys, doubt some burgulars would even find my gunsafes.
not every burgalar is a numpty and most will probably ignore a gun safe but finding a keybwith a tag on thats says gun safe is going to make you a bit darwin looking. My club put labels on the safes stating whsts inside. I ripped them off...stupid thing to do. Your problem is the theif who is seeking or will seizevthe opportunity if it is available to them. And by telling others and letting them record it....jeez......!!! I dont care if they are family...they dont know where my spares are period.
U'd be far quickier trying to pull my safes off the wall and worrying about them later.
The FEO's idea was it saves a lot of time if u die there is a record where ur keys are, he never said it was compulsory more a convience thing
And when the police/firearms registry gets hacked and the data of where your keys and address is to be utilised by the crims?
Leaving your place to be open house!
I wouldnt be telling them anything re keys.
Thats why he specificly said they would stay in his personal filing cabinet and NOT put on the system.
I still really don't see the big deal, if firearms licencising stayed the same after the polis scotland thing i'd have no problem telling him again, buts its changed so not really an issue anymore.
Mibee i'm too naive but i don't see corruption, bent cops and conspiriacy theories every where i look. Plus he's seen my guns i'm sure he'd nick some better ones than mine if that wot he's after
Surely its not that different to lodging a spare set or instructions with ur lawyer? After all surely he could be bent too? or some of there staff?
I think i'm alone in saying it but really don't see the problem, if u wanted a gun theres probably plenty of easier ways to get 1 and 1 more suited to crime
I think this is a very unfair question, and should not be asked. As an official representative for the police service is asking that question, an applicant will feel under duress to perhaps offer an answer that to anyone else would be refused. For the FEO to offer a reason like that is also ridiculous. If the FAC holder dies and no-one knows now where the keys are, the firearms are as safe as they were when the FAC holder was still alive.
There is now plenty of time to force open the cabinet to recover and retain the firearms pending disposal.
I can't believe this has gone on for 4 pages!
There is absolutely no doubt under any circumstance that the police do not have the right to ask the question, and even less doubt that you are obliged...or should even consider...answering it.
End of.
i must do the same at some point,My spare keys are in a sealed envelope at a local RFD. With instructions in my will that on my decease he is to sell those which my son does not wish to keep, retain £500 himself for the trouble, and pay the rest to my son. My two pistols are, in any case, with that RFD as s7 "Historical Weapons".