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    Deer stalking elitist?

    After living abroad for a good while now, and also hunting and fishing in a few different countries, I feel that both deer stalking and fly-fishing in the UK has quite a prominent air of elitism to it. According to one online stalking source, it seems that deer stalking now goes hand in hand with fine wine, sports cars and cigars. Compare hunting in the UK to that of North America/New Zealand, and the social differences are gigantic.

    Driven game shooting I can understand. I've been there and done that.

    I do however feel that deer stalking could really do without the elitist aura that some like to attach to it.

    Discuss?

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    Well its a little diff here,we have a tough day in the bush then grab a beer and sit down and bhullshiit our heads off.
    No top hats or canes.
    Dont dither,take the shot!

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    Quote Originally Posted by johngryphon View Post
    Well its a little diff here,we have a tough day in the bush then grab a beer and sit down and bhullshiit our heads off.
    No top hats or canes.
    Well I guess it depends on what kind of beer your drinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AgincourtArcher View Post
    I do however feel that deer stalking could really do without the elitist aura that some like to attach to it.

    Discuss?
    You've not been here long then?
    O wad some Power the giftie gie us to see oursels as ithers see us!

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    [QUOTE=I do however feel that deer stalking could really do without the elitist aura that some like to attach to it.

    Discuss?[/QUOTE]

    Not the case at all in general & where it exists in the form you mention I feel it's a marketing exercise by referencing the historical class origins of shooting & fishing as a means of creating an atmosphere to sell expensive guns, rifles, wines, cigars, clothes, safaris, lifestyles etc. to the nouveau riche & the gullible.

    I don't own a rifle or shotgun that cost more than about £1200 & my shoot & stalking syndicate subs add up to about £800 a year. I could afford more if required but it's not necessary.

    There are indeed some that would consider these costs a considerable extravagance but if you're on an average to middle income & don't drink or smoke then they don't seem it to me (our children still have a roof over their heads, food to eat, clothes to wear & shoes on their feet).

    As an antiques dealer I'd have thought that you might be on shaky ground accusing others of 'elitism'. I'm a photographer specialising in the arts & antiques business & I spent a lot of time making antique furniture look like it's worth a million bucks (or more than the asking price, at least) so I have a pretty good idea of how that market works & it's not too different to how shooting 'lifestyle' products are sold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AgincourtArcher View Post
    I do however feel that deer stalking could really do without the elitist aura that some like to attach to it.Discuss?
    Perhaps it's there on one or two of the 'Poshest' estates but I've never come across it. All those I know are just ordinary folk who may treat themselves if they book a week on a commercial estate in the Highlands.
    Elitist? Nope!
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    Quote Originally Posted by A Guy Out West View Post
    Well I guess it depends on what kind of beer your drinking.
    AGOW We Aussies make the best beer in the world..it will make the most seasoned drinker wonder wtf he is doing ha ha...or spew (barf)
    Dont dither,take the shot!

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    I think one of the great things about stalking is the huge mixture of people involved. Some guys are not on big money but use whatever they have left to pay for the sport they love. Absolutely nothing elitist about it. Go on some BDS days and you'll soon see.
    Good hunting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johngryphon View Post
    AGOW We Aussies make the best beer in the world..it will make the most seasoned drinker wonder wtf he is doing ha ha...or spew (barf)
    Fosters?

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    Quote Originally Posted by goathunter1 View Post
    I think one of the great things about stalking is the huge mixture of people involved. Some guys are not on big money but use whatever they have left to pay for the sport they love. Absolutely nothing elitist about it. Go on some BDS days and you'll soon see.
    Good hunting.
    As above. I've been deer stalking and rifle shooting for approaching 40 years and I have never experienced any sort of elitism in the UK or abroad. In fact just the opposite. In my experience UK stalkers couldn't be more inclusive and friendly.

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