Thanks EMcC for your honest veiws, i looked at a pair at "The London Camera Exchange" in Salisbury but the mistake i made was that i never took my 8 x 30 to compare, the swarovision seemed very good but i did bulk at the price of £1600, you know what it's like with us Stalkers-- you've got a little bit of cash and you are always on the lookout for something to give you the edge.
I suppose i might just stick with my 8 x 30 for now.
If you traded yours back now you would only get enough cash back to buy the dog and car so you would still be stuck doing the cooking and cleaning yourself !!!!!!
Cheers, Porky 308