Bullet prices in the US!

User00003

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I was just looking at bullets online.

In the US 100 Nosler Partitions is about $25, around £15. In the UK they'd be around £80!!!

Is there any way of getting bullets from the US legally? My local shop says they don't require proof of FAC to sell them to me, so should getting them posted from the US not be ok as well?

here's the other thing - if I have family in the US, can I have them post it or bring it in person legally, if the retailer will not post directly?
 
International Shipping

"We do accept orders from international customers. NOTE: We require a $500 minimum order. All freight is billed to the customer. We will normally ship via Parcel Post, Air Parcel Post, FedEx or Freight Forwarder. Due to shipping regulations, it is impossible to export small quantities of ammunition, powder, primers, solvents, aerosols or other cleaning chemicals. A Department of State export license is required to export rifle & pistol ammunition & components. Some other items such as scopes, shot shell ammunition & components, & gun parts may also require export licenses to certain countries. On any order under $1000 requiring an export license, we will charge a $50 processing fee. Please contact our International Sales Department."

This is from Graf & Son's, a large distributor in the US. I guess it answers your question as to shipping from the distributor.~Muir
 
hhmm..interesting..wonder if there are regulations around 'receiving' expanding bullets, not loaded ammunition, via post, and not through a registered dealer:-|
 
hhmm..interesting..wonder if there are regulations around 'receiving' expanding bullets, not loaded ammunition, via post, and not through a registered dealer:-|
Read the bit in red in Muirs post above regarding componets, I am having the same problem obtaining them, my supplier will not post any from the USA now.
 
International Shipping

"We do accept orders from international customers. NOTE: We require a $500 minimum order. All freight is billed to the customer. We will normally ship via Parcel Post, Air Parcel Post, FedEx or Freight Forwarder. Due to shipping regulations, it is impossible to export small quantities of ammunition, powder, primers, solvents, aerosols or other cleaning chemicals. A Department of State export license is required to export rifle & pistol ammunition & components. Some other items such as scopes, shot shell ammunition & components, & gun parts may also require export licenses to certain countries. On any order under $1000 requiring an export license, we will charge a $50 processing fee. Please contact our International Sales Department."

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This is from Graf & Son's, a large distributor in the US. I guess it answers your question as to shipping from the distributor.~Muir

wonder if it was feasable if quite a few guys got together and placed a decent order with a value of over $1000 and pay the $50 handling fee on top if they would still do it?
Financially it would be more than viable. the only draw back i could see is that it would need to be done by a RFD know doubt a RFD would want to make money out of it so maybe it wasnt such a good idea:D
 
hhmm..interesting..wonder if there are regulations around 'receiving' expanding bullets, not loaded ammunition, via post, and not through a registered dealer:-|

You could...........if you so wished

Get friends or family to remove from original packaging and ship in small quants (<200) marked as test swaging samples. Put the value down as less than £30 and they should reach you problem free.;)

All done entirely at your own discretion of course.
 
wonder if it was feasable if quite a few guys got together and placed a decent order with a value of over $1000 and pay the $50 handling fee on top if they would still do it?
Financially it would be more than viable. the only draw back i could see is that it would need to be done by a RFD know doubt a RFD would want to make money out of it so maybe it wasnt such a good idea:D
Form a loose association club and use a members joining fee charge to appoint a willing member as an RFD for the purpose and pay the associated admin costs. A sort of shooting sport affiliated social enterprise.:lol:

You might even be able to apply for a grant from the government to help set it up and keep it running under the EU funding allocations. Now that realy would be one in the eye for the anti gun mob.
 
I think that this is one of those subjects that crops up every 12 months or so. :old: I don't think there is anyone on this site who doesn't think we are being shafted as regards bullet prices, especially when we can all see what can be bought in the U.S. for quite reasonable prices.
I'm just waiting for the discussion to degenerate into the two opposed views of whether expanding bullets can be posted to you from abroad or not, as it usually does. Then the arguements begin and people get their arses in their hands.:coat:
 
I used to get my "expanding bullets" posted direct from the US. My normal order was 500 .224 V Max and 150 - 200 .277, usually Partitions or Accubonds. I think the last time the order cost about $150. They guy just won't ship them anymore. US dealers either can't be bothered, or I think more likely, are scared of falling foul of all sorts of federal regs now. Probably can't blame them.

Certainly there is no legal problem with this here in NI as "expanding bullets" are not a controlled item, do not need to be entered on your FAC and you can buy any qty of them. The local polis were well aware of what I was doing and had no issue with it at all.

I do not think you could do this legally in mainland UK given the controls on bullets.
 
Form a loose association club and use a members joining fee charge to appoint a willing member as an RFD for the purpose and pay the associated admin costs. A sort of shooting sport affiliated social enterprise.:lol:

You might even be able to apply for a grant from the government to help set it up and keep it running under the EU funding allocations. Now that realy would be one in the eye for the anti gun mob.

That idea is not as daft as it seems.
Whats stopping individuals forming as say The Stalking Co-operative were they all become members paying into the co operative x amount of pounds and allocating a certain individual to become representative who can act on their behalf in dealing with imported goods from the USA or any other country.

The entitlement of those who participate to reap the benefits of membership, large orders could be placed just like any importer does at the moment who then sells stock to gun shops around the country.
Surely it not a closed shop as they seem to imply it has to be feasable surely . As long as all legal requirements are met in holding componets and releasing such to the membertship of the co-operative it operates within the parameters of the law does it not.
Any one up for it?
 
Strange that this should just come up as I recently bought some kit from the US and one of the die boxes would not fit in the package with the other kit.
So he suggested that he keep the box to put in when I order some bullets ! I queried the sale of bullets to me here in UK and his reply was that he can use the same Postal box to send them to me if I so desired.
I have heard of someone that already does this and his last reciept was about three months ago.
Here's his address if anybody wants to ask about it.
Clliiff@aol.com <Clliiff@aol.com>
 
How do you get them put onto your FAC, can you do this yourself? otherwise you could end up with a load of bullets in your position, but no history of purchase, and no need to own that caliber as you have in the eyes of the FLO looking at a renewal, no need for it as you have not purchased any bullets for years. Do you then own up that you received them via the post. I would like to know the answers as I bought some back from the states, 200 x 243, 200 x 270 and was told by my firearms dept I had to declare them at customs, pay any taxes, and get them to place them on my FAC. This could be a minefield, or a way of beating the high prices we pay in U.K. My Nosler BT were 1/2 the price we pay in U.K. deerwarden:confused:
 
That idea is not as daft as it seems.
Whats stopping individuals forming as say The Stalking Co-operative were they all become members paying into the co operative x amount of pounds and allocating a certain individual to become representative who can act on their behalf in dealing with imported goods from the USA or any other country.

The entitlement of those who participate to reap the benefits of membership, large orders could be placed just like any importer does at the moment who then sells stock to gun shops around the country.
Surely it not a closed shop as they seem to imply it has to be feasable surely . As long as all legal requirements are met in holding componets and releasing such to the membertship of the co-operative it operates within the parameters of the law does it not.
Any one up for it?

Stu

I most certainly am "up for it" Well I would be wouldn't I. It was my pigging suggestion. :D

If the lads off CFUK can sort out a loosely affiliated shooting club, for the cost of your SACS membership (£30) with your SACS membership thrown in for free.

I see no reason why something similar couldn't be arranged in order to place bulk orders for components, spares, consumables or one off specialist items of interest to a given number of "club" members say >10.

Run as a not for profit SE of course.

The site managemnet is always trumpeting on about stalkers helping stalkers, members helping members, why not call it the SDUK training & trading company.
I call shotgun on the trading name before anyone goes and registers it.:rofl:
You could use the forums under utilised and under resourced shop section as the clubs internet. That way you'd drive Alex's much sort after site performance figures, increase the commercial viability of the site much to managements delight, and do the UK stalkers a huge favour all in one go.
 
OK. So thats you and me so far :D

Do you think I'm going to need a bigger ledger?:smug:

How are you with DE bookkeeping?
 
My double Entry book keeping is fine its how I can share out the proceeds after that trips a few up. Remember the students and the £30 where the owner gave back some money and they all payed £9 so it cost £27 well watch me do it with a greater sum.:D
 
will i buy in from cliff and the way i do it is to alternate batches of bullets like 200 from cliff use them and then 200 from my local rfd !

keeps the ticket ticking over , plus i shoot plenty of rounds so............ , or you could just buy them in , give them to your rfd slip a tenner in his pocket and get him to enter them on his register then he can put them on your ticket !\

works for me

cheers lee
 
Just in defence of some of our RFD's, not all are grabbing git's!............ I have a very pleasant relationship (financial before you start!:lol:) with my RFD, who places almost zero charges on items that are requested in a polite manner!..... many shooters & a few clubs in Cheshire are in receipt of transactions through him totally without financial loadings!:eek:
 
"Group buy" great idea but who holds a RFD to take delivery and hold, then how will they be distributed legally? Don't forget expanding bullets can't be posted in the U.K.
 
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