guys got a lot of pleasure to night went out to look at a patch of land that i stalk which i look out onto from my kitchen window in the spring we counted eighteen deer in one field just picked it up it has not been stalked for years . anyway had the boy with me who is nearly seventeen and is putting in for his rifle and shotgun tickets we walked up the side of the big wood wind in our faces stopping every now and again and using the butalo saw a young doe that came out to have a look and went on her way got to the top of the wood and called again the boy said dad theres two deer far side of the field binoed them doe and a reasonable buck kept calling another doe appears from side of wood and makes her way to the buck and doe called a bit more and a big buck appears far side of field making his way to the three deer suddenly tears across at smaller buck and chases him off about 80 yds in front of us the lad has the binos at the time and says dad thats an old buck thick neck greyish in colour etc hence thats what gave me the pleasure being able to take him out teach him to manage our deer in a proper manner we slid off back down the side of the wood both pleased that we saw those two bucks on our patch and myself that the boy aged that big buck and wishing id started at his age . hope this was not too drawn out just wanted to share the experience .