Had a very interesting conversation with my local RFD today regarding 17 ammo. He had a rep from Edgar Brothers in who had Mr Hornady himself with him (a descendant) who told him that Hornady have the only 2 machines that manufacture all the tips for 17 ammo worldwide. Different cases are used but the tips are the same whatever the colour. The recent orange tipped ammo was due to poor pigment and nothing else. They don't perform any different to any other. Just for info chaps. By the way assembly of the cartridge is a separate issue.