hannoverscher schweisshund

steyr243

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After reading a certain shooting mag, i noticed an advert for Hanoverian bloodhound pups, these pups are not the first litter in the u.k. the first litter was bred in scotland and all of the 6 pups are worked daily by full time stalkers in scotland and have done for a number of years. These hounds are a specialist breed and not for the faint hearted and should be worked constantly on deer in order to get the full ability out of them. Next thing we know they will be crossed with any other dog breed which will make any deer dog enthusiasts blood boil. i have a funny feeling this maybe a touchy subject and will spark a long debate!:doh:
 
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Steyr these dogs are blood dogs and to be worked daily you would need to be doing some amount of wounding :lol:. I was told by a chap in the BMH Society that any mut can work a warm line but for the real deal dogs like BMH /HAN,S THE LINE HAD TO BE VERY OLD AND COLD. So unless you have lots of old trails to find your beter getting any mut.
 
The subject of crossing specialist blood tracking dogs such as the BMH or Hanovarian has been done to death already but you are correct it did cause a fair bit of debate.
 
6pointer, good point there. when stalking with guests shooting high numbers of deer(300-500), mainly sika,roe and red daily, the worst scenario often happens. often when stalking in the evening the search is left until morning, also working in dense forestry with full rutting sika stags requires a hardy hound as these things run like mad no matter where you hit them!
 
These dogs are huge compared to a BHM, a guy i know came over with his from germany this year with his, could not believe the difference in size with my BMH. I think they would take a fair bit to handle. He used his to track wounded wild boar.
 
wallace you are correct, they dont like other dogs, children, small animals, strangers, or high pitched noises!:D the only thing what enters their heads is, which runner is next!
 
Sound like a usless lump of dog to me for 90% of deer stalkers they are not what is wanted that is not to say you could not get a good dog if you cross it with a nice calm Vizsla or a good temperd terrier. :cuckoo:
 
All what is needed is to find the deer asap,deal with it if required which saves me time,the temperament side is not realy an issue for me as my hounds mostly only spend time with me , hope the pups go to good homes anyway I might just be tempted for a junior!
 
STEYR 243 All i wanted from my hound was a complete pet in the house and a good worker out side but for me they must! have a steady nature. Dual purpous just like my woman a deamon in the kitchen and a devil in the bedroom.;)

MY THREE YEAR OLD GRANSON WOULD HATE HANOVARIANS LOL

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wallace you are correct, they dont like other dogs, children, small animals, strangers, or high pitched noises!:D the only thing what enters their heads is, which runner is next!

Mine is 3/4 Hannovarian and 1/4 Bav. She is bigger than most Bavs I have seen, and not in a huge sense but in a bulk. She is a strong dog, and probably weighs in at low 30KG's. She is great with kids, has a slight nervousness around men (i.e. will bark at them if she feels threatened) and dislikes most other dogs (Breeds percieved as being vicious are disliked more than others, i.e. staffies, mastiffs etc..). The other dogs thing though is again nervousness I think, she does not set out to kill them, merely to bark at them whilst running away!

She is more pet than anything else, she has only ever worked blood trails in training, but does come out stalking once a month or so with me.

I do like the Brindle ones pictured above though, might have to get one of those next :D
 
My Hanovarian is a year and a half and is fine with other dogs and other people, she even ignores the chickens! Although she is very strong minded, but that is what they are like. But when she is at work, she does what needed of her!
 
Steyr these dogs are blood dogs and to be worked daily you would need to be doing some amount of wounding :lol:. I was told by a chap in the BMH Society that any mut can work a warm line but for the real deal dogs like BMH /HAN,S THE LINE HAD TO BE VERY OLD AND COLD. So unless you have lots of old trails to find your beter getting any mut.

Hi 6pointer,

The man from the BMH Society has miss informed you a little, my Dannish tracking freind Kim has a Lab which can and does track on 60 hour old trails, it has also been danish and swedish tracking champion, he also has a Hannovarian which has a fearsome reputation on red deer and boar, but is a total different kettel of fish to work, andbody that is interested in training a dog kim will be do some training days with me through the BDS in September.

http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?hl=en&sl=da&u=http://www.schweisshund.dk/&ei=8-HvTZ-ZJoKy8gO1jJHABw&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCIQ7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dkim%2Bschou%2Bjorgensen%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DX%26biw%3D1263%26bih%3D505%26prmd%3Divnso

Click on the schweiss link

Tony
 
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STEYR 243 All i wanted from my hound was a complete pet in the house and a good worker out side but for me they must! have a steady nature. Dual purpous just like my woman a deamon in the kitchen and a devil in the bedroom.;)

MY THREE YEAR OLD GRANSON WOULD HATE HANOVARIANS LOL

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Good to see the pup settling in Davie.
 
Thanks tony and i have no doubt about the usefulness of other breeds i have worked many differnt types and most dog that are trained well will do a good job. I got my BMH as a stalking companion and a dog that will find me deer the same hour i shoot it ;). If i need it to do anything extra then hey i hope it dose.
 
Lovely looking hounds.
On a side note, I wonder why beagles are not more popular with stalkers...

Beagles are noisy. Some call it voice, some call it music, whatever you call it... it's noisy and detractors will often point to this as a problem. Other folk love it.

Personally, as an occasional gun to a pack of foot hounds, when they're driving towards you yelping and howling enthusiatically, I find the "music" gives me quite a buzz of anticipation. Taking Mr Reynard cleanly with a shotgun, when he finally presents, is all the more of a challenge once the adrenalin level is up thanks to the dogs though. Very much like driven Boar on the continent.

I've no direct personal experience with either Hanoverians or BMHs. Do either of them give a bit of voice on scent or are they quite quiet?
 
I would be exceptionally careful before buying one of these and not only check the pedegree but also have a DNA test done. There are not only some bad bloodlines in this country but also some ctoss bred with Bavarians that can be hard to spot.
 
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