On principal that it was too big. It was huge. Broadside it was about the biggest roe I have ever seen. Problem was it was on my way in. Happyhunt, it was seen through the gap in the trees before the turning circle in the gully. Two things saved it. First I was on a working trip, 3pm, It was on my way in. I normally take the rifle out the bag and insert the mag when I enter. I was only carrying the rifle on the offchance. It moved forward so its head was hidden, I could see the nose and a great broadside at about 140yds. I could not determine the sex. I was sure it was the big buck but did not get the clear confirmation. Drove up to the turning circle stalked back in but it had move into the standing timber. Left it and went to work shifting a high seat. seeing plenty does but bucks not in attendance yet.