Thanks for the info. folks. Seems fairly clear. As I will be mainly using for hunting then it seems that all of the ammo I will use will be expanding it will go on the ticket. Thanks again.
No Dave the expanding bullets/missiles you purchase do not need to be entered onto your FAC by the selling RFD. He only needs to see your certificate to establish the fact that you have the expanding ammo condition on it that allows you to possess them - you should already have that condition if you are using factory expanding, so no need for a variation.
The relevant reference in the HO Guidance is under Chapter 3.17
"It is not
necessary for the dealer making the sale to
record transactions of expanding bullets on
the certificate but the sale should be recorded
in the dealer’s register."
I've had this out with a couple of RFDs who had been told by the FLD that they had to make an entry on the purchaser's FAC for expanding bullets. After showing them the extract from the HO Guidance they agreed that no entry should be made.
BTW. There is also no requirement for you to enter your handloaded and complete ammunition on your own FAC. Some forces appear to have a bit of a thing about this - my own FEO did until put straight about it - and seem to think it is required to somehow 'prove' that you have been using the firearm come variation time. That is just bollox, 'good reason' to possess is not linked to usage.
Just remember as others have noted - your total holding includes complete assembled rounds, (purchased or handloaded), and expanding bullets. So ask for a decent increase if required. Acquire 500, possess 600 is a good start.