so you might remember I have a Lab called Teak who on paper is amazing but actually just didn't fetch and I was going to get rid of him because he was driving me nuts, nose was fine and he'd locate perfect but just wouldn't retrieve. Pick up and drop then run back every time. Way too much time spent on this one but....
Now I've tried advice given and after lots of trying there's progress and now teak will fetch (most of the time) on rabbits and pigeons but he still has thick moments. He only uses his nose and wont look for game which is pretty weird but hey, I have a dog that does a bit now and maybe come pheasants and ducks we'll see a working dog. He now like rabbits the best and quarters perfectly to locate them which was a great relief to see when he started doing it properly for the first time.
Thanks all the posters that said to try different stuff, if the general opinion was to get rid that's what I'd have done that which I was more or less set on doing. cheers