Just informative for younger members on this forum. Recently there was a topic about Nightforce scopes and their reticles. I am 46 and the last 3/4 years my eyesight goes down. I only need glasses to read and still it becomes difficult to see a fine reticle in low light. So if you put money in a scope you want to use for many years think about getting a thicker European reticle like the nr 4 or similar. Illuminated reticles can be of some help, but if non illuminated get a thicker reticle, you won't regret it.