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    I have seen different videos on gralloching deer. I want to do my DSC 2 so which is the best and most up to date way to impress my assessor?

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    I don't want to be the one to say it but if you are still watching videos on youtube on how to gralloch deer then you could probably do with some more mentoring from an experienced "best practice" stalker (ie. an AW)

    Follow the DI best practice guide and you won't be far wrong.

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    I have seen some videos where they take the pluck out in the field. This seems a bit messy to me? I think Il have to do some reading and practice on rabbits.

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    Pointblank is spot on here, you need to gralloch a few deer before going for assessment, watching videos and reading books is not enough, it's highly unlikely you will have the knowledge or skills to pass without having had a reasonable amount of practical experience. The gralloch you choose will be appropriate to the circumstances you find yourself in when you have the deer on the ground, there are several different ways and you really should be proficient in more than 1 method. Going for assessment too early is a waste of your time and that of your AW, there are not a lot of transferable skills from rabbits to deer, get out in the field and learn from someone who knows what they're doing, there's no reason why this can't be the AW you wish to use for your assessment.

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    It isn't about impressing the assessor. It is about doing a clean and proper job. You can use your own methods as long as you get it all done cleanly and methodically.


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    Nick, as a long serving AW I have seen many different ways of gralloching an animal. Some start at the back and others from the front. Some only take the green offal out in the field where others will clean it out front to back. If the situation allows some do a suspended gralloch but out on the hills we do it on the ground.As long as the candidate has been able to show me lymph nodes and ended up with a clean healthy carcase to go into the food chain, then they are all correct methods in helping you to pass the part2.
    I get frustated when I am witnessing someone , I know deals with a lot of animals, and they seem to be making an awkward hash of it. I have to end up saying" is this how you normally gralloch a beast". The answer comes back"No I was told I had to do it this way for you". I tell them to just do it as they would on a normal days stalking and hey presto the gralloch is done quicker and less awkward!!!!

    As one or two have said earlier, it sounds as if you are in need of more experience. You have to learn where all the organs lie in the body so as to know what will happen when you put your knife into it. Try different ways and find out what suits you and your situation.

    In the good/bad old days , gralloching was just something that had to be done . Now the majority take pride in presenting a clean animal . Even if it is for their own consumption and not for the game dealer

    Good luck in your education and good luck in your stalking. Because to gralloch you first have to get your beast.

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    Thanks john. useful advice.

    I have gralloched about 7 beasts this year and I think im not too bad. I dont do anything fancy because I usually have a big drag.
    The last beast was a 15st stag. I shot it on the edge of dusk so when is came to gralloching it was difficult because I didnt have a torch.
    Its stomach was huge and full and when i tried to roll it out it tore near the diaphragm. Is there a way of separating the stomach from the oesophagus without causing a mess?
    Is this way wrong now because I have seen videos of them cutting the oeophagus in the neck and dragging it through the chest cavity.

    Also which way of bleeding is preferred. I always stick a knife into the base of the neck but i have heard others cut the aorta in the abdomen.

    Lymph nodes is something I need to look at coz I aint got a clue?

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    Nick, from your comments , yes you are still needing to do somehomework. Lymph nodes a crucial must for you to learn where they are and what they look like , good or bad! Also different ways of tying of the food pipe in the neck.

    Bleeding is a debatable subject just now as well. Some bleed through the front and others from the diapghram. As I said before , its what suits different people and their situation.

    If you can I would advise that you either buy a training session with a competant person or take up any offers to be shown where everything is and how to deal with it.

    I have been in this game a long long time now (Oh God I hear Andy my work mate playing the violin in the background!!!!) and I am still seeing new and easier ways of doing things. My first headkeeper (long departed ) always told me " you are never too old to learn something new". So get out there Nick and get all the advice you can and then use what you feel suits you.

    Stalking and Courses
    BASC Approved Trainer & Assessor. Cairngorm National Park Authority Approved Supplier. Supported by Sauer Arms
    See you at Kelso, Scone & Moy 2016

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick H View Post
    Lymph nodes is something I need to look at coz I aint got a clue?

    I thought this was a requirement for DSC1, which you say you've done ?

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    I know what they are but it was a few years since I have done my dsc 1. I cant remember all the details. Its not like you do detailed anatomy on dsc1 mate. Why dont you teach me?

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