I am wondering if there is any standard definition of deer weights. When you sell a beast then the price is based on cleaned carcars in the fur with heads and legs off- no problem with that but I often see reference to deer weighing 14 16 17 stone particularly in Scotland. Would that be on same basis or with Heads and legs on? Its just that I shot a hind last night in Suffolk which had a carcarse weight of 125 lbs ie 8stone 13lbs which seems quite a bit less than the weights above. I can tell you that it was a B****R to get it up into the back of the Hilux. Glad it wasnt a stag!