i am very much a stalker on a limited budget like many others and i have to spend my pennys wisely to extract the most from them. and when i was looking for a set of bins swarovski were just a tad shall we say out of my price range so the search went on for a cheaper set and this is how i came across a set of minolta which a mate of mine had and they were fantastic so good that i had a look on ebay and have managed to pick a set of 10x50's up for 30 and they are spot on (after a good clean). i would recomend them to anyone as they are only about 70 new and tho they are not swarovskis the quality is that of a pair worth a couple of hundred quid anyday.