pete evans
Well-Known Member
I've been following the thread that offers cull shooting for fallow and munties. Someone suggested that the demand for stalking was so high and the oppertunities so few and far between that the stalker was unlikely to have problems filling his high seats (even though he came across as a complete tool) .
Is this the case? I personally could not afford to pay that kind of money if stalking was to be anything other than a occasional thing. I've paid to go to scotland for the reds but this was more a stalking holiday rather than a one off stalk neer where i live.
My stalking consists of a couple of small oxfordshire farms where I can come and go as I like and keep any carcasses that i shoot ( some obviously gets given to the farmers) I also occasionally help out with a cull on an estate ( dont keep carcasses but dont pay to shoot) and have some leads that i will follow up when i get the chance.
Say for example you pay for all your stalking and you go roe stalking every fortnight that would be a minimum of 60 x 52/ 2 = £1560 per year before anything is shot you then have trophy fees on top and tips and if you want venison you have to buy it. Is this what people are doing? paying?
Part of stalking i feel is learning your patch, knowing roughly whats on it and developing it, you cant do this on an individually paid stalk.
Am i just lucky to have got a bit of ground or are the people who pay cash rich time poor? im interested to find out.
one thing i have seen is that people have been advised to wear a tie clean the car have all your docs insurance etc when trying to get some permission. I can see the rationale but cant say its ever worked for me, i find that land owners farmers etc are a little averse to this formal approach and even more so in entering into a contract even signing letters of permission. i feel thet they prefer a slightly less formal arrangement then its up to you to keep you nose clean.
Whats worked best for me is that every time that i have a conversation with anyone that i think may hold the key to some permission i get on the topic of deer and gradually introduce the idea of me shooting them, you get plenty of polite thanks but no thanks but occasionally you hit the jackpot.
Im not trying to willy wave about permission, just curious about other peoples set ups or expieriences.
Pete
Is this the case? I personally could not afford to pay that kind of money if stalking was to be anything other than a occasional thing. I've paid to go to scotland for the reds but this was more a stalking holiday rather than a one off stalk neer where i live.
My stalking consists of a couple of small oxfordshire farms where I can come and go as I like and keep any carcasses that i shoot ( some obviously gets given to the farmers) I also occasionally help out with a cull on an estate ( dont keep carcasses but dont pay to shoot) and have some leads that i will follow up when i get the chance.
Say for example you pay for all your stalking and you go roe stalking every fortnight that would be a minimum of 60 x 52/ 2 = £1560 per year before anything is shot you then have trophy fees on top and tips and if you want venison you have to buy it. Is this what people are doing? paying?
Part of stalking i feel is learning your patch, knowing roughly whats on it and developing it, you cant do this on an individually paid stalk.
Am i just lucky to have got a bit of ground or are the people who pay cash rich time poor? im interested to find out.
one thing i have seen is that people have been advised to wear a tie clean the car have all your docs insurance etc when trying to get some permission. I can see the rationale but cant say its ever worked for me, i find that land owners farmers etc are a little averse to this formal approach and even more so in entering into a contract even signing letters of permission. i feel thet they prefer a slightly less formal arrangement then its up to you to keep you nose clean.
Whats worked best for me is that every time that i have a conversation with anyone that i think may hold the key to some permission i get on the topic of deer and gradually introduce the idea of me shooting them, you get plenty of polite thanks but no thanks but occasionally you hit the jackpot.
Im not trying to willy wave about permission, just curious about other peoples set ups or expieriences.
Pete