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    Red stags

    Hi All
    Just a quick one to who might be interested.
    Was checking on our red heard we keep at the week end & one thing struck me as odd about one of the stags I noticed it in his 1st year of growing but took no real interest in it
    We have about 120 or so reds, among them about 10 stags (not counting this years calves) 1 of the stags now 2 years old & a very inquisitive nature about him ( He would give me a butt up the arse if i gave him half a chance) Hes usually the 1st in the potato trailer the 1st to the gate in fact the 1st to check anything new out thats put into the paddock. (i have taken quite a liking to this particular stag because of his character so he will stay in the heard as long as i can possibly keep him along with the other "not to be shot" deer) This particular stag has a very light face, almost white to look at.
    Has anyone come across this in stags they have shot in the past Ive shot quite a few red stags in norfolk, somerset & devon & can honestly say ive not noticed this in any ive seen in the wild.

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    Red deer are not a species l know the ins and outs of as l do not stalk them that often but l have an inkling that what you have there is a "bald faced deer", l have read references to them in various books/magazines, mainly regarding highland deer.

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    Hi monynut
    Thanks for the reply, Most of my stalking is roe & muntjac, We keep reds as a supply for meat & general pleasure, also for general interests for local schools,colleges etc getting children involved in the countryside & giving talks on the types of deer & there habitat to be found in our country.
    Some of the deer are very friendly especially some of the old hinds who will quite happily root through my pockets for digestive biscuits, others are very wild & wont come anywhere near me when im in the paddock with them. You just have to remember there wild animals at the end of the day & as long as you treat them as that then your fine. Turn your back on the wrong one & youll soon have an antler up your back end if your unlucky

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    steyr 243

    Same here most stalking for me is roe and munties with the odd red and fallow passing through which to be honest l tend not to shoot anyway, its good to hear that the local children get the chance to get involved and learn about the countryside, l used to be a part time keeper on a NT property locally and tried to get local kids involved, we do have a large deer farm locally as far as l know they do not involve the local children at all, it is situated on the edge of a small village and come the rut the locals complain about the roaring so the deer are moved to the farthest paddocks away from the village, its a pity that some people who live in the country don't appreciate what goes on and take it for what it is. ( stand back, duck and wait for the incoming )

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    Hi monynut
    Yes its good to get the kids involved where you can. Obviously they dont need to know about the shooting of the deer as this will take the edge off there visit if you know what i mean The local schools really seem to get involved nowadays regarding the environment & the countryside so thats gotta be a good thing.
    We dont have any trouble with locals complaining about the noise during the rut & quite a few tend to walk along the footpath & watch it anyway. think its a bit of a novalty for them. When the biggest stag starts rouring he really goes for it & it can be heard quite a way off. Hes a big lad with a nice set of 12 point antlers on him & soon sees the younger ones off. Although we have a couple of really nice younger stags that gave him a bit of work to do this year.
    Its strange really because although i have stalked wild deer for years i do feel different when i shoot one of ours or anything happens to them. i lost my favourite old hind a month or so ago & it did leave me feeling quite sad. She would always come up to me & look for biscuits in my pocket. Unfortunately she died of old age & virtually all her teeth were ground down to nothing. She was on the list of "never to be shot"

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    steyr 243

    l shoot muntjac on a piece of ground that goes along one edge of the deer park and l often go and have a look at the animals behind the fences, there is always one particular hind (ear tag no 1) that always comes up for a fuss, l took my daughter when she was about 7 and she thought it was the bees knees to touch such a lovely animal.

    They remove the antlers of the deer which is a shame but l suppose there is a safety consideration to think of to each other and to the keepers they split up the breeding hinds and place one stag with each group and that cuts down any aggressive rutting activity but they do have to watch the wild stags that get drawn in at the rut they get so frustrated and cause a lot of damage to the perimeter wire.

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    Hi monynut
    I refuse to de antler ours but i know of some places that do it. Its mainly the big deer farms that de antler. I know of 3 that do it. Tried the splitting up of the stags during the rut but it only gets them frustrated & they end up doing more damage to themselves trying to get through the fence at each other so now we just let them get on with it. They have plenty of room to get out of each others way if they need to as there are 4 seperate fields fenced off with access between them all via open gateways. We only close the gates off if we want to stop them grazing in any particular field or if we put the bison in one of the fields. "Yes i did say Bison" There bloody huge & you really have to watch your back when your in the same field as them, especially now they have calves.
    Weve done well this last couple of years in regards to deer calves & only lost 1 calf this year & that was down to a twisted gut, We lost a few last year mainly because the bison got into the same field as the deer & tried to hoof the deer calves up off the ground to get them moving.
    I will take some pics of the white faced stag & try post them on here so you can see.
    By the way hope you have a happy new year my friend

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    steyr 243

    Interesting to here you keep bison, l saw a clip on tv just last nite were a bison who was being photographed by some guy who got to close and was tossed into a tree, that's a lot of animal to be annoying.

    Hope you to have a good new year and happy, safe and successful hunting in 2008.

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    Yeh there quite a beast ill tell ya. There the land owners pets you mite say. He walks around them like he does cattle & dont even flinch, You wont catch me doing that but then he is very nervous about walking around the stags. We have this agrrement now that i sort out the deer & he does the bison. Just to give you an idea of the sort of strength they have we half buried some tractor tyres so that just the top half was out of the ground so they could use them to play with. The lower half was set in concrete. It took the bull all of ten mins to tear one out of the ground & send it hurtling down the field. Also set a telegraph pole 6ft into the ground. It took him a couple of hours to push it over 45deg.
    I didnt see it on tv so will have to keep an eye out for a repeat.

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    if you swap the buscuits that may change his hair colour,try ginger nuts and let me know how he gets on .happy new year mate

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