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only got this one my best is fed.110
,51.5 grs imr 4350 with 110gr accubondfeller mine did't like em stuck to 117's also had this on file
from usa best place to find info on the 25cal you are loading a 25-06 if not scrub this lot LOL

quote}i would trust the data you're getting more than what you see in load manuals.
They're a great starting place, but there are so many variables (bbl length,
bore dimensions, case capacity & case wall thickness, temp, humidity,
atmospheric pressure, etc...) that you have to trust your guns and your
experience.

I was curious, so I ran your loads through QuickLOAD. With a
24" bbl (25.9" bolt to muzzle), the velocities it predicted were 2979 and 3119,
for the 47.5 and 50 gr loads, respectively. Your data is only 200 fps and 166
fps off of those numbers. I'll paste the 50 gr load data below, so you can look
it over.

Cartridge : .25-06 Rem.
Bullet : .257, 110, Nosler AccuBond
53742
Useable Case Capaci: 58.267 grain H2O = 3.783 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L.
L6: 3.100 inch = 78.74 mm
Barrel Length : 25.9 inch = 658.0 mm
Powder :
IMR 4350

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given
charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures
exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step Fill. Charge Vel.
Energy Pmax Pmuz Prop.Burnt B_Time
% % Grains fps ft.lbs psi psi %
ms

-20.0 75 40.00 2547 1584 31537 8294 91.8 1.566
-18.0 77 41.00 2605 1658 33503 8537 92.9 1.529
-16.0 79 42.00 2663 1732 35581 8771 93.9 1.492
-14.0 80 43.00 2721 1809 37779 8997 94.9 1.456
-12.0 82 44.00 2779 1886 40104 9213 95.7 1.415
-10.0 84 45.00 2836 1965 42563 9419 96.5 1.375
-08.0 86 46.00 2894 2045 45164 9613 97.2 1.338
-06.0 88 47.00 2951 2126 47915 9796 97.9 1.302
-04.0 90 48.00 3007 2209 50825 9966 98.4 1.267
-02.0 92 49.00 3063 2292 53904 10123 98.9 1.234
+00.0 94 50.00 3119 2376 57163 10267 99.3 1.202 ! Near Maximum !
+02.0 95 51.00 3174 2461 60615
10395 99.6 1.170 ! Near Maximum !
+04.0 97 52.00 3229 2547 64271 10509 99.8 1.141 ! Near Maximum !
+06.0 99 53.00 3284 2634 68147 10607 99.9 1.112 ! DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+08.0 101 54.00 3337 2721 72257 10689 100.0 1.083 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
+10.0 103 55.00 3391 2808 76620 10760 100.0 1.057 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 10% powder lot-to-lot
burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased
by 10% relative to nominal value:
+Ba 94 50.00 3238 2561 66702 9980 100.0
1.123 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Data for burning rate decreased by 10%
relative to nominal value:
-Ba 94 50.00 2954 2131 47739 10114 94.9 1.303] PLEASE REMEMBER 50 GRAINS IS NR MAX
INFO ONLY USE DATA AT OWN RISK.
ATB
PAUL
 
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Sorry. Mis stroke on the arthritic key board.
Same comment applies.
Why not teach the OP how to deal with it instead of providing "QL" data?~Muir
 
Imr or Hogdgons 4831 will run them for you. Start of at 48grns and work up. Theres 110grn loads on the nosler site for accu-bonds.

Nutty
 
I've used IMR4350 up to 50.5gn with Nosler 110gn Accubonds & not very successful, but no pressure signs. Switched to both H4350 with some success, but found much better results using IMR 4831 x 53gns. At 51gns IMR4831 you will probably start to see this weight of bullet begin to perform, but if you're looking for more velocity from the load, you should be able to 'push' it further.
You never know though, all bullets & barrels are different so you may do OK with your IMR4350. ATB

PS: The QL data shown lists the cartridge length at 3.100".....No data in manuals I have show as short a cartridge OAL as this & others particularly the Nosler website show 3.260".....I use 3.400" as a cartridge OAL, but - my rifle doesn't have a magazine to determine my OAL & my barrel has a long freebore.
As Nutty suggests, work toward it & use the Nosler site for guidance to begin with.
 
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Sorry. Mis stroke on the arthritic key board.
Same comment applies.
Why not teach the OP how to deal with it instead of providing "QL" data?~Muir

think i did in post top is one of my old loads for the 110gr and i pointed out my rifle like the 117 gr's with h4895 sc
but the QL data should be a starting place. as this indicated the same powder i was useing ! and he has not said he did not understand the data .
have you got any data to give him !
 
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think i did in post top is one of my old loads for the 110gr and i pointed out my rifle like the 117 gr's with h4895 sc
but the QL data should be a starting place. as this indicated the same powder i was useing ! and he has not said he did not understand the data .
have you got any data to give him !

I worked in a large gunshop at one time. A person came in with a Ruger MkI pistol he couldn't get back together. The gunsmith said that for $5 he'd reassemble it, but for $10 he'd teach the guy how. The guy paid the $5 and got his gun reassembled. A month later he was back paying another five dollars. The next time he paid the ten dollars, learned how to get the gun back together, and never came back.

I wouldn't give him data. I would tell him how to solve his problem on his very own and not rely on others for the solution to a problem he will surely have surface again in his shooting career.~Muir
 
thats the dif from the usa and GB i was a pistolsmith, and he would get any help with anything at my workshop for free, my livin was making pistols so talk was free and help was the given thing to do, i maybe old school but a good chinwag was better than a slap on your back pocket anyday, he also would for free able to use my crono and data from books by all the powder Co's for free. i would think he was likely to return one day for a new pistol or need some work done!! i was trained not to be so rude as to request payment for help and still am of this mind to some 40yrs on.
:british:


I worked in a large gunshop at one time. A person came in with a Ruger MkI pistol he couldn't get back together. The gunsmith said that for $5 he'd reassemble it, but for $10 he'd teach the guy how. The guy paid the $5 and got his gun reassembled. A month later he was back paying another five dollars. The next time he paid the ten dollars, learned how to get the gun back together, and never came back.

I wouldn't give him data. I would tell him how to solve his problem on his very own and not rely on others for the solution to a problem he will surely have surface again in his shooting career.~Muir
 
Thanks for all the helpful replies, it should give me a starting point
As for the non helpful ones, this is only me second attempted at reloading so understandably I am trying to get as much information as I can before I start, but I am finding it hard to find being new to all this and not knowing thebest placeless to look. Hopefully the next time you ask a question on here people will show you as much help and respect as you have shown me




I worked in a large gunshop at one time. A person came in with a Ruger MkI pistol he couldn't get back together. The gunsmith said that for $5 he'd reassemble it, but for $10 he'd teach the guy how. The guy paid the $5 and got his gun reassembled. A month later he was back paying another five dollars. The next time he paid the ten dollars, learned how to get the gun back together, and never came back.

I wouldn't give him data. I would tell him how to solve his problem on his very own and not rely on others for the solution to a problem he will surely have surface again in his shooting career.~Muir
 
Thanks for all the helpful replies, it should give me a starting point
As for the non helpful ones, this is only me second attempted at reloading so understandably I am trying to get as much information as I can before I start, but I am finding it hard to find being new to all this and not knowing thebest placeless to look. Hopefully the next time you ask a question on here people will show you as much help and respect as you have shown me

I wasn't sympathetic enough to your problem?
Sorry. I never directly addressed your question or problem, so don't feel put out. What I addressed was the fact that no one stepped up to show you how not to come back for such advice. My example was to show that you can keep coming back, asking for data, or you can learn how to handle it yourself... like many of us did before the advent of computers and the Internet. If you want to leave it as it is, fine. You have your QL data. On the other hand, if you want to learn how to handle reloading for a bullet weight for which there is no data, then maybe you should ...ask how?? instead of just ask for data? Think about it. For a man who is trying to get as much information as you can, you pull up short pretty fast.~Muir
 
thats the dif from the usa and GB i was a pistolsmith, and he would get any help with anything at my workshop for free, my livin was making pistols so talk was free and help was the given thing to do, i maybe old school but a good chinwag was better than a slap on your back pocket anyday, he also would for free able to use my crono and data from books by all the powder Co's for free. i would think he was likely to return one day for a new pistol or need some work done!! i was trained not to be so rude as to request payment for help and still am of this mind to some 40yrs on.
:british:

And you're still hard at the bench then?
When one of the busiest and best custom pistolsmiths in the US walks away from his bench to show a man how to assemble a Ruger Mk I .22 auto, he charges for his time. The customer thought it was humorous and bet on his ability to get it together the next time. Everyone laughed when he sheepishly came back the second time but stubbornly stuck to his $5 fix. And even the customer was laughing the last time he came in waving a $10 bill and asking to see our "damned gunsmith". This smith was in high demand until the day he died. No one ever complained about his work or his prices. I saw him give away much work to those who couldn't afford it and in every case, gave buck and a half's worth of craftsmanship for every dollar. But that's enough of defending an old friend.

Frankly, whether he charged or not was not the point. It was about the customers' willingness to pay for someone else to provide the fix instead of going the extra ($5) distance to learn it themselves. Once something is learned, you never need go hat in hand again. If you wanted to do the OP a real service, you would have offered to teach him how to handle the situation, not just QL data. JMHO.~Muir
 
yup i would but he is hundreds of miles away:doh:
i would hope there is a chap who reloads nr him could do the teaching for the price of a tea bag

working pistolsmith nowdays no! we had to give up our pistols when an arsehole went on a killing spree!!! so alot of our pistolsmiths were put out of work i lost my business and had to sell up, i moved it to another trade that being telecomes optical data and trans builder


And you're still hard at the bench then?
When one of the busiest and best custom pistolsmiths in the US walks away from his bench to show a man how to assemble a Ruger Mk I .22 auto, he charges for his time. The customer thought it was humorous and bet on his ability to get it together the next time. Everyone laughed when he sheepishly came back the second time but stubbornly stuck to his $5 fix. And even the customer was laughing the last time he came in waving a $10 bill and asking to see our "damned gunsmith". This smith was in high demand until the day he died. No one ever complained about his work or his prices. I saw him give away much work to those who couldn't afford it and in every case, gave buck and a half's worth of craftsmanship for every dollar. But that's enough of defending an old friend.

Frankly, whether he charged or not was not the point. It was about the customers' willingness to pay for someone else to provide the fix instead of going the extra ($5) distance to learn it themselves. Once something is learned, you never need go hat in hand again. If you wanted to do the OP a real service, you would have offered to teach him how to handle the situation, not just QL data. JMHO.~Muir
 
If the OP would ask, we could teach him how it is done, and was done for years before QL. Instead, he seems to have gotten his data fix ( along with a supposed barking by me) and has departed. Too bad. HE could have learned something more tangible than some computer generated loading data.

Sorry about the handgun thing. Truly an injustice.~Muir
 
Nope still here, the reason I didn't ask how to handle reloading for a bullet weight for which there is no data, is being new to reloading I didn't know that this was possible for the 'joe public' to do
but I would be very interested to learn how's it's done
 
Simple. Just go the data for the next heavier bullet. Loads for a 100 grain bullet will be perfectly safe starting at 117 grain loads. For a 156 grain 6.5 use 160 grain data. 175 grain 30 cal can use 180 grain data, etc. Work up from there.

Do you have a loading manual? It's usually covered in the text.~Muir
 
Thanks for the info, yes I have a manual but I haven't seen that info yet it must be in the advance section I am still going through the basics, ill have a look
can this method be transferred between different bullet heads, eg can I use the grain weight from a ballistic tip for a soft point and vies versa or does it have to be the same type
​regards rich
 
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