How many of you carry your certificate
I live in derbyshire but border leicestershire. I have land in both counties. Derbyshire seem fine about me not carrying my certificate with me when out shooting. Leicestershire have none of it & say i must carry my certificate with me at all times. They wont accept a photocopy either.
personally i dont like carrying my certificate with me because its just another thing i could possibly loose
Whats your views on it
Lets be practical about this. I carry a photocopy and leave the original in the car. Although, i have never been challenged to produce it. Now the much maligned FAC register is on line the photocopy should suffice.
I wouldnt like to keep the cert in the car even down a dark lane.
Ive only ever been pulled over once by plod when ive had a rifle in the car & that was by derbyshire police. They were fine that i didnt have my certificate with me & were more interested if in actually looking at my rifle & scope than anything else just to see it. They were even more interested in the fact that i had been out foxing & were genuinely interested.
I don't carry mine on me, usually leave it the car, police have radio's and computers to check ownership etc, photocopies not much use, if you are away from home and need ammo etc, been stopped by plod twice and never been asked to show fac or rifle, this is in warwickshire, local coppers who know the farmers and what goes on.
I carry mine, my BASC membership card (in case I need the insurance details - god forbid) and a copy of any letter of permission in a waterproof wallet type thing that I had for keeping valuables dry when I used to go kayaking.
I've been asked to show it once to a disappointed road rat (traffic cop) who was all excited about the possibility of seizing a rifle cos he was convinced that I would only have a copy with me.
It was so good to watch his face fall a mile when he saw the original.
Sorry to burst your bubble guys, but as an ex-cop myself I know the regs and the original is what is required, photocopies are too easily forged or altered.
Cops are allowed to exercise some discretion so can accept a photocopy if they can believe it is genuine, getting your FEO to sign and stamp it as a genuine copy helps them with that. I was always happy to accept that, but then I was a shooter myself and was sympathetic, not all of my former colleagues thought like that.
Show an unsupported copy to a mean, difficult g*t or to one who simply wants to get back inside the station for a while with a chance to impress the boss and you could end up without your rifle and a fight to get it back.
Leaving the original in the car is taking a risk, your FAC is a valuable official document, it allows the holder to carry a lethal weapon after all, treat it with a lot of respect and carry it or a certified copy (which isn't ideal) or be prepared for some hassle sometime.
Sad but true.
All the best