wild boar in Oz...heaps

There is an ongoing fight from animal libbers/greens to ban the use of dogs. All the hunting orgs work against it, to keep the tradition alive but the doggers don't do themselves many favours. We still fight for doggers though on the premise that if they ban dogging now, it will be bowhunting next then stalking & so on. Take this clip for example where they are all standing around whilst the dog has the pig lugged, simply to get footage. This is a breach of the welfare code. They should have been dispatching the pig as soon as possible, not holding off trying to take footage & then this bit should have been cut before being published on the inter web. That is, if they were concerned about trying to keep this form of hunting alive.

Pigs are a real pest down here, & they get much larger than in that video. I'm confounded at times to hear folks on this forum wanting them more abundant in the UK. My advice is if your going to encourage this, then have a very strong set of values & ethics around the hunting of them, or it might bring all hunting traditions into disrepute.

As a landowner my experience is that pig doggers cause me many more problems than the pigs. I'm only 3500 acres & my neighbours are smaller than this so if they give permission to doggers they will most likely end up in my place. My guess the block in this clip is much larger than 20000 acres were dogging really is a useful control method, but permission to trespass from neighbours would still be wise. It's a shame for the blokes who do it properly as many landowners are so fed up that they're supporting the antis to ban this.

Sharkey
 
They're a huge pest in the US as well:
Hagerman Wildlife Refuge battling growing hog problem

Here's what feral hogs have done to some of the hay meadows on our place:
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And here's what I've been doing about it:
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Some helpers:
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And one my dad shot prowling outside the house where we stay when we're hunting:
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There's no place for "ethics" in hunting feral hogs/sus scrofa -- NOT to be confused with European wild boar or Russian boar. Feral hogs in the US and Australia are a non-indigenous species and a man-made pest. Ethics left the station back when idiot livestock growers free-ranged hogs and inconsiderate "canned hunt" outfits transported and set them loose. They breed faster than any other ungulate, compete with indigenous wildlife for habitat, spread disease to other animals, and destroy property. It's pest elimination, no different than swatting flies or killing cockroaches.
 
Was up in the top end 2007-8 we shot hundreds, they are devastating really fragile ecosystems, what we noticed is that they become specialist in their areas and actually find easy pickings and eat them into extinction(just as the op) then move on to something else, they even ate their own dead, largest mob of pigs i saw was near mount Borradaile prob about 38-40 in number of all ages, in some places large tracts of land ( larger than a medium farm here in uk) were virtually impossible to drive over the ground at more than 2-3 mph it was so badly dug over when wet then baked dry. The scale of the problem is immense & it opens your eyes as to what happens when introducing non native species into an area. Between the pigs and the wild dogs there is no shortage of vermin to control.
 
They actually seem to be reverting to type - turning black and hairy. I have seen the like of the Tamworth lookalike running round the Polish forests. Not too surprising I suppose - they are all the same species.

I think the imperitives here are a bit different to the US and Aus - here they are an indegenous species and the other parts of the natural (but not the man-made) ecosystem should be able to cope with them - larger predators excepted.

They're a huge pest in the US as well:
Hagerman Wildlife Refuge battling growing hog problem

Here's what feral hogs have done to some of the hay meadows on our place:
20130810_115049_zpsa83f09cb.jpg

20130810_093830_zps0a094451.jpg


And here's what I've been doing about it:
IMAG0046_zpstg6ryxme.jpg

SpottedBoar_zps12cb85b8.jpg

SowGilt_zps1fc4961c.jpg

BigBoar_zps8bd609f3.jpg

Gilt_zpsad1755a5.jpg

20130809_211232_zps086563e4.jpg

20130810_094208_zpsc519d65d.jpg

20130908_102222_zps3d54b078.jpg

20130906_195318_zps4bf5fee6.jpg

20130922_073944_zpsb524144a.jpg

20131019_082130_zpsbb2b6797.jpg


Some helpers:
20130810_163052_zps97b30d16.jpg


And one my dad shot prowling outside the house where we stay when we're hunting:
BlackBoar_zps9c795a38.jpg


There's no place for "ethics" in hunting feral hogs/sus scrofa -- NOT to be confused with European wild boar or Russian boar. Feral hogs in the US and Australia are a non-indigenous species and a man-made pest. Ethics left the station back when idiot livestock growers free-ranged hogs and inconsiderate "canned hunt" outfits transported and set them loose. They breed faster than any other ungulate, compete with indigenous wildlife for habitat, spread disease to other animals, and destroy property. It's pest elimination, no different than swatting flies or killing cockroaches.
 
There is an ongoing fight from animal libbers/greens to ban the use of dogs. All the hunting orgs work against it, to keep the tradition alive but the doggers don't do themselves many favours. We still fight for doggers though on the premise that if they ban dogging now, it will be bowhunting next then stalking & so on. Take this clip for example where they are all standing around whilst the dog has the pig lugged, simply to get footage. This is a breach of the welfare code. They should have been dispatching the pig as soon as possible, not holding off trying to take footage & then this bit should have been cut before being published on the inter web. That is, if they were concerned about trying to keep this form of hunting alive.

Pigs are a real pest down here, & they get much larger than in that video. I'm confounded at times to hear folks on this forum wanting them more abundant in the UK. My advice is if your going to encourage this, then have a very strong set of values & ethics around the hunting of them, or it might bring all hunting traditions into disrepute.

As a landowner my experience is that pig doggers cause me many more problems than the pigs. I'm only 3500 acres & my neighbours are smaller than this so if they give permission to doggers they will most likely end up in my place. My guess the block in this clip is much larger than 20000 acres were dogging really is a useful control method, but permission to trespass from neighbours would still be wise. It's a shame for the blokes who do it properly as many landowners are so fed up that they're supporting the antis to ban this.

Sharkey

My thoughts exactly!
 
Do they all go into the food chain? Can I us DSC 1+2 as a reason to immigrate? How much does the government pay hunters?
 
Do they all go into the food chain? Can I us DSC 1+2 as a reason to immigrate? How much does the government pay hunters?

Not many, but some folks with trappers licences may sell some if they have enough & the chillers are close enough to make it worth the effort.

No, but I think these days a criminal record isn't required.

It's not hunting, its shooting, its not a job for "hunters" who want to continue enjoying thier hunting. The National Parks have people who cull as jobs, but most work is done by contract & tender to private concerns.

Cheers Sharkey
 
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