You have every right to stand by your statement, but you and your rude friend manorman have no right to tell other forum members what opinions and comments they should have or make on this forum.
And I stand by that.
Branko,
Thank you for your kindness in telling me what I can and cannot do, something I believed you were upset by in Monarman's post.
Please do not tell me who my friends are, I do not know Monarman at all. I do however have some sympathy with anyone who does not like deer being used as targets and not as respected quarry. My stalking mentor told me many years ago that if I was unsure of the distance to a deer, and so was unsure of what bullet drop I may have, to, "Stalk closer!"
I have some very interesting books written by Nathan Foster; Long Range Hunting Rifles & Long Range Hunting Cartridges. Both brilliant books full of wonderful information. Perhaps this site ought to be renamed The Long Range Hunting Directory.
I may be a very old fashioned and tedious sort of muggins, being a bear of very little brain, but I have always thought the stalk was as much a part of the outing as the shot.
There is a member of this site called Ecoman who is not an active member anymore, an ex-Head Stalker on a prestigious estate and former columnist in the much reverred Stalking Magazine. Now he is a good friend of mine, and the long range "diallers in", people quite happy to use deer as targets to practise on, have sickened us both to the extent that we rarely use this site any more. Both of us have used neck shots when it was appropriate, used bi-pods and even range finders. But both of us think of deer as creatures worthy of our best efforts in giving them a clean and quick exit from this world, which is far easier to do at 300yds (even easier at 200yds) than at 800yds.
Back to optics for long range, I will give you Nathan Foster's veiws from his books, as he does shoot deer, pigs and feral cattle at very long ranges. He has banned clients from bringing Swarovski and Zeiss brand scopes on tutorial hunts.
According to him you need scopes with 1/8 or 1/4 MOA adjustments. You want as long an eye relief as possible if using big calibres. He rates Sightron, Nightforce, Nikon Tactical, March and Trijicon. He says all these brands are very good regarding eye relief, calibration and have excellent optical clarity.
He does not seem to have used S&B, Kahles or Leica scopes.
He does suggest using at least a 30mm scope body and also using a canted picatinny type rail which will give you more adjustment for your long range shooting.
Regards, Simon