The shape of the future

Could you imagine how long a variation will take if it does go through?

I think I'd just get rid of my air rifle rather than face the ball ache of getting it added to my FAC - and I suspect that logic will probably lead to surge in people applying for .22LR.
 
Yup despite a consultation with 87% against legislation .....

they do what they want and ignore it anyway.....

and folk wonder why I'm so cynical hen comes to politics and scum .... Sorry politicians

paul
 
Will the air gun certificate (AGC) allow a FAC rated air rifle without need to add it to a FAC? If so I can see a lot of powerful air guns appearing in Scotland. Estimated 500 000 air guns, is that a realistic figure or how many they think will get registered. It will be interesting to see how many certificates are issued and at what cost.

Wee Eck, will never listen to the countryside majority as he is an urban socialist and wants to have control over everything.
 
your all doomed a vote for king alex is a vote for fascism.you do as he says not what he does .he,s also demanding full control over firearms law devolved from westminster and given to himself sorry the scottish parliment ruled by him.enjoy your independance
 
It's only been proposed. I'd be very surprised if it doesn't get passed though - it's an emotive subject and they are spinning their words for all they are worth.
 
Thursday 5 May 2016.

Since there is a very real risk that this will ocurr in a post-Yes vote Scotland, all bets are off.

However, they have run a consistent lead of over 10% in the polling data over the last few years, so it's rather unlikely that much will change.
 
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Apparently they are hoping to have the bill pushed through before they all go off on their summer holidays around 28th June
 
Given that there are an estimated 500,000 airguns in Scotland, I wonder how it will affectv the referendum.

Some seat-of-the-pants Friday morning theorising might go like this:

There are 4.1 million registered to vote in the referendum. Let's say an optimistic 70% turnout. That gives us 2.87 million votes.

There are, supposedly, around 500000 air rifles in Scotland. Let's assume an average of two per owner. That's 250 000 voters.

An optimist might then be drawn to conclude that the SNP have just categorically lost themselves around 8% of the vote.

Of course, many of those would be voting No anyway.

The bigger question would then be what proportion of people currently thinking of voting Yes, but who are interested in field sports in general, might take this as a warning and consider changing thier minds.
 
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It's a method used by governments, local councils and other legislative bodies all over Britain. They want to introduce something that will have a lot of opposition, be it stricter gun licencing, closing down local schools or a village hall or whatever. They first of all get it into the press by a leak. They then have a consultation, where everyone can complain to their hearts content and then it all goes quiet. Then all of a sudden it happens. Everyone stands back and says "Well I saw that coming".

I think the Scottish Government have genuine motives here in wanting to reduce crime involving air weapons. But like most firearms legislation of recent decades, the method is all wrong. It won't be those with a genuine reason to have an air gun that commit these offences. They're targeting the wrong people. However, like those complainers at the consultation stage, there is very little point in saying this, because, like that consultation, nobody is listening.
 
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