I have had a heck of a time today and although I really should not be posting on here about it I do hope someone will learn from my mistakes about managing permissions specially those who you take on your permission with you.
I have one personal permission , 500 acres of mixed field, improved grass, hill and woodland so the shooting is varied and so is wildlife. It is situated ,arguably, in one of the most unique and beautiful areas the Highlands of Scotland could ever offer with views to the western Mountains of Affric, Mullardoch and Strathfarrer and to the south over Loch Ness.
On occasion I do offer people out for a days shooting crows or out lamping foxes mainly for the company as it can be pretty lonely work if you haven't got someone wandering with you but most of the hours work I put in and the money is on my own time and expenses. The ground I shoot has up until today had numerous guns with permission (unknown to me when I took it over). One person I took out as a lamping buddy went without consulting me first asked the owner for permission to shoot on their own, thinking the reason for the request was because of legal reasons for that person being with me the owner granted the permission, after they got the permission from her they then informed me what they done (thoughts on this would be appreciated) and made regular visits to the farm without my knowledge.
The reason for me saying up until today there were numerous permits granted is because there has to be action taken to limit the access of shooters to the fields. So all permissions have been revoked per contact with myself.
I had a phone call from the landowner this morning asking why I had put tyre tracks all over the top of one of her silage fields (after me knowing the fields had just been fertilised and prepped for growing) on Monday night, I explained I had not been out since Friday as it has been too foggy to lamp and that I did not know whos it was, her response was of shock as she lives on the farm on her own. I told her I would try and find out who it was. Well needless to say on investigation I was met with certain amounts of hostility and deniability from the parties I contacted only to find that the farm hand while at a friends house noticed my lamping buddys vehicle passing the farm (up until that conversation today I was under the impression he did not atend the farm without my knowledge alone), when I questioned him if it was him that was up there his reply to me way as follows
"I do not know what nights I have been up there" and "how would (the farm hands name) know if I was at the farm as I always go there after midnight"
It is not my place to question other shooter behaviors although the initial accusation was towards myself and that the farm owner has left it in my hands to sort it out.,
Well needless to say after today and in discussion with the farm owner (of whom my goal was to help them out with fox and crow problems not hugely interested at the moment in deer) I have been instructed to erect signs saying that all permissions are now cancelled and anyone wanting to shoot has to contact me first.
I feel though that I am burning friendships and oppertunities by taking this task on and I really do not want to cause any problems but it seems I have no choice.
all thoughts welcome.
atb Tulloch
I have one personal permission , 500 acres of mixed field, improved grass, hill and woodland so the shooting is varied and so is wildlife. It is situated ,arguably, in one of the most unique and beautiful areas the Highlands of Scotland could ever offer with views to the western Mountains of Affric, Mullardoch and Strathfarrer and to the south over Loch Ness.
On occasion I do offer people out for a days shooting crows or out lamping foxes mainly for the company as it can be pretty lonely work if you haven't got someone wandering with you but most of the hours work I put in and the money is on my own time and expenses. The ground I shoot has up until today had numerous guns with permission (unknown to me when I took it over). One person I took out as a lamping buddy went without consulting me first asked the owner for permission to shoot on their own, thinking the reason for the request was because of legal reasons for that person being with me the owner granted the permission, after they got the permission from her they then informed me what they done (thoughts on this would be appreciated) and made regular visits to the farm without my knowledge.
The reason for me saying up until today there were numerous permits granted is because there has to be action taken to limit the access of shooters to the fields. So all permissions have been revoked per contact with myself.
I had a phone call from the landowner this morning asking why I had put tyre tracks all over the top of one of her silage fields (after me knowing the fields had just been fertilised and prepped for growing) on Monday night, I explained I had not been out since Friday as it has been too foggy to lamp and that I did not know whos it was, her response was of shock as she lives on the farm on her own. I told her I would try and find out who it was. Well needless to say on investigation I was met with certain amounts of hostility and deniability from the parties I contacted only to find that the farm hand while at a friends house noticed my lamping buddys vehicle passing the farm (up until that conversation today I was under the impression he did not atend the farm without my knowledge alone), when I questioned him if it was him that was up there his reply to me way as follows
"I do not know what nights I have been up there" and "how would (the farm hands name) know if I was at the farm as I always go there after midnight"
It is not my place to question other shooter behaviors although the initial accusation was towards myself and that the farm owner has left it in my hands to sort it out.,
Well needless to say after today and in discussion with the farm owner (of whom my goal was to help them out with fox and crow problems not hugely interested at the moment in deer) I have been instructed to erect signs saying that all permissions are now cancelled and anyone wanting to shoot has to contact me first.
I feel though that I am burning friendships and oppertunities by taking this task on and I really do not want to cause any problems but it seems I have no choice.
all thoughts welcome.
atb Tulloch
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