If they are selling brass not marked +P then it's not cataloged, and I haven't seen any in years. Likewise the ammo. I was looking for brass for my 722 Remington some years back and was surprised that I didn't find the non-+P stuff. All the Winchester 257 brass I've seen listed or bought over the shelf is marked +P. I may be wrong -I tend to get forget things.~Muir
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