I have heard you cannot shoot a 22-250 at the bisley range, is this true??
The HMR was a no-no until fmj ammo came out for it, it was the 'expanding ammo' ban that stopped it not speed.Whats the MV? pretty sure there is a speed limit as well as a ME limit.... i think .17hmr is a no-no for just that reason. don't know what the rationale behind it is mind
No no no, the Hmr WAS banned, but only until fmj became available. It's ok to use, with fmj. the velocity is well under the limit at 2700 vs 3281fps limit.Thanks for the info, I had no idea that .17hmr was a no-no, I was shooting mine down there on Sunday! Was looking into a 22-250 but would be a killer not to be able to use/zero it at the range. May have to go the .223 route. Anybody have much use of the .204 ruger, this may be an option. The rifle would be a foxing/rabbit rifle, I cant imagine there would be much left of a rabbit shot with a .204 compared with say .17hmr.
The 'rationale' behind it, is, military calibers all run under the limit, and we can, so therefore, we will, set a limit.There is absolutely no rationale behind it at all, fast 22 C/F's like the 22-250 and 220 Swift shed velocity and energy much quicker then say a 308 so i canr possibly see where the problem is???
My 22BR is too fast for Bisley!! and under the range rules a 204 would also be too fast, its rediculous
Ian.
There is absolutely no rationale behind it at all, fast 22 C/F's like the 22-250 and 220 Swift shed velocity and energy much quicker then say a 308 so i canr possibly see where the problem is???
My 22BR is too fast for Bisley!! and under the range rules a 204 would also be too fast, its rediculous
Ian.
The 'rationale' behind it, is, military calibers all run under the limit, and we can, so therefore, we will, set a limit.
It also wears the sand out quicker, and because it sheds energy so quick, it tends to splash the sand and debris around more than a heavy, but slow bullet that drills itself in deep. And yes, sand wears out.
Pete
Couldn't agree more Ian, that one of the main reason's I stopped using Bisley several years ago.
Very interesting to read about the British Sporting Rifle Club though I.Farticus, thanks.
That's the explanation I got from the RSO when I questioned him about it last summer during my tri-annual range inspection.I have never heard such a load of old tosh in all my life!!
At 600yds a 55gr bullet arrives with a lot less energy then a 168gr 308 bullet and you expect me to believe the smaller lighter bullet causes more damage, get real!
Ian.
So you'll be pleased to know you most definitely won't be allowed to use a 338 there. Talk to the NRA for full clarity in what you cannot shoot and why. KI have never heard such a load of old tosh in all my life!!At 600yds a 55gr bullet arrives with a lot less energy then a 168gr 308 bullet and you expect me to believe the smaller lighter bullet causes more damage, get real!Ian.
It is true.
However, we have dispensation at British Sporting Rifle Club, as it's a hunting calibre.
It allegedly harks back to someone from the Hereford area, still with dust on his boots, having a tracer round disappear straight up a few years ago from a fairly hot bit of kit straight into the flightpath for Farnborough.
Sorry, but there's no such dispensation for hot .22CF's. BSRC are restricted to 3280fps (see the BSRC manual - P.133 2.c. iii) - like every one else.
Most ranges are still certified to the 5.56 Nato MV threshold (i.e. .223 55gr nominal is 3240 fps), and no more. Don't ask me why - that's just how it is.
So who, out of all those who’ve so far posted, is a qualified NRA RCO with the all-important bolt-on HME qualification as both pertinent to the NRA pre zeroing procedure and that of the BSRC c103M range??
K