When was your last check up?

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Righto, well I was pondering whether to write this or not, then a chance visit last night from a mate hardened my resolve, so here we go.

Some of you will have noticed I’ve been particularly prolific and irritating this week, posting here there and everywhere and looking for trouble wherever I can find it. Truth is, extreme boredom is the root cause, too much time on my hands. Why? Because I’ve was sitting in a hospital bed for five days while the quacks attempted to get to the bottom of the “hypertensive crisis” and a persistent two day long migraine.

A hypertensive crisis is when your blood pressure suddenly goes above 180/120. Mine was 215/135. Not good. When I reported this and the untreatable migraine to the nurse at our doctor’s surgery, I was immediately trucked off to the ED due to the high risk of imminent stroke.

Now in our family, several hereditary conditions or risks exist on both maternal and paternal sides, as evidenced by me, my sister, aunts, uncles and my cousins who for the most part have developed one or more of the conditions exhibited by our parents and grandparents. Elevated blood pressure (but not that high), migraine, angina, asthma, brain tumours and kidney cancer. Luckily for me I’ve not had the brain tumour or angina yet, but all the others? I must tick the “yes” box on the medical forms. Annoying, but just the way it is.

Long story short, the migraine was resolved by lots of drugs (triptans and opiates) which gave me an unexpected trip to the outer reaches of the solar system. The blood pressure was attacked by clever things that make your veins dilate. Unfortunately, the blood pressure drugs didn’t work for a few days while they experimented with the types & dose, and I wasn’t allowed to go anywhere in case I had a stroke, their primary concern. Then as if by magic, down it came over three days, and now its 135/85, close to its normal level. I shudder to think what could have happened if I hadn’t taken my blood pressure when I did, suspicious that there may be a link to the migraine problems I have suffered the last 10 years since I had a radical nephrectomy in 2009.

I had the opportunity to discuss high blood pressure with both doctors and nurses in the hospital. One nurse gave me a crystal clear understanding of the dangers of high blood pressure. She described to me the level of lifelong care required for a number of patients she has dealt with who have suffered debilitating stroke. She used the phrase “silent killer” several times in reference to how in almost all cases she has come across, neither the patient nor the immediate family had any idea of the underlying condition of dangerously high blood pressure.

Despite my trials and tribulations with cancer I have always had a somewhat fatalistic attitude towards health, which is daft really. I am a very active and fun loving bloke who probably won’t ever adhere strictly to doctors orders. But I do listen and take what they have to say on board, and there’s always been a persistent guilty conscience voice in the back of my mind telling me to look after myself. That’s why I own a decent quality blood pressure monitor, for example. It’s not like I don’t know the state of my health because for work and insurance purposes I must have an annual medical, which covers most of the common threat factors including having a finger shoved up my rear end (and a CT scan).

I knock about with a range of different people from well-heeled professionals to rough and ready shepherds, and pretty much most good sorts in between. There is one common thread that is shared by many of these guys, and that is they live life hard, fast and with both eyes firmly pointing straight ahead. Not exactly Lemmy hard and fast, but they’re certainly not the kind of guys to go tootling off to the GP every time they have a health grumble.

My mate who visited me last night was glad I was home and feeling much better, probably because I have the keys to his anticipated Roar hunting in April! But in conversation with him it struck me how he typified the classic Kiwi hardcase bloke who simply will not listen to his symptoms and dreads the idea of going to the doctor, adopting the “prefer not to know” mentality. He is the youngest of a large family and he has already lost his father and one elder brother, who both died young, to illnesses that if treated early would have prevented their passing. His dogged refusal yesterday to even contemplate going for a thorough medical annoyed me, and I told him so. He’s 47, married to a gorgeous wife with 4 kids, and the last time he can remember going to a GP was when he did his pilot’s license at the age of 22. (ED visits for stitches and broken bones don’t count.)

While I was in hospital last week I had a very revealing conversation with my two boys (12 and 13) , and separately my wife. My boys made it very clear to me that if I was to kark it from not looking after myself properly, they would be seriously cross. Like really, really disappointed in me. My youngest boy has a way with words that gave me such a fright that I cried. Which was interesting for us all as the only time he’s ever seen me cry before was when his grandma died in July last. My wife is a strong and stoic woman, just like her late mother, but I could see this event had shaken her, as the fear of suddenly having a husband unable to perform even the most rudimentary self-care frightened her half to death.

So why am I telling you all this?

Go and see your doctor. Don’t be a hard nosed selfish cockhead and refuse the chance for the preventive care that is your right. Consider how your nearest and dearest feel about you, and their investment in your continued good health. Consider the impact that a preventable health emergency would have on them, potentially for the rest of their lives as well as yours. Scared of what the medical outcome might be? Well that will be fark all compared to how you will be feeling if you’re incoherent, dribbling and unable to wipe your arse.

Sorry for the confessional and to be so blunt, but I can see that the next mate who defends the indefensible and walks off into the night pretending that they’re made of titanium and carbon fibre, he’s going to get a serious rocket up the rear end. I think we all know that this culture of “prefer not to know” is perhaps far more prevalent than people let on, and only by putting yourselves in the shoes of those around you is it really possible to understand how scary that is for them...

Women have pap smears and breast scans as a matter of routine. What do us blokes have? Only what we allow ourselves, and often times that’s nowhere near enough. High blood pressure is very common, easily treated, and a potential death sentence. Or much, much worse.
 
I certainly know where you’re coming from.
I have hereditary high blood pressure, treated with a tablet a day. For the rest of my life.
I also have had a panic at the Doctors when my BP was deemed far too high. However that was simply a case of forgetting the tablet :doh:and having my BP taken after bloods. Should of been done first (different nurse mix up on what I was there for).
My Sister also has a bicuspid valve, so I have to get tested for that too.
I never used to go to the Doctors, A&E was a last resort. But I would agree putting off going because you don’t want to get bad news is plain daft. Done that too, a cyst that could well of been cancer or so I thought.
You can’t get out after the deer (or whatever) if you’re too knackered through poor health.
Hearing damage is another avoidable problem that we should not ignore.
 
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Your health is your wealth.
I inherited a blood pressure related condition and also am on daily tablets.
Regular health checks are recommended for everyone.
 
Hi dodgy knees, I think if something has been bothering you it is better to talk about it. Peoples reaction to what you say is their business but at least you have made the effort to enlighten them somewhat. From my observation the Kiwi hard man syndrome is fairly common although it might be that in farming circles it is worse because we all have to be hard men to some extent compared with city dwellers. I hasten to add I am not a Kiwi but have regular contact with one in particular.
3 weeks ago I had a whole herd TB test forced on me by APHA because my neighbour had 9 cows taken with TB, so 150 deer to put through the handling system twice. Not normally a problem because my business is design, manufacture and sale of complete deer handling systems so I have all the gear. But of course when coming in again 3 days after the jabs to check for lumps the deer are somewhat less than happy. I got a good kicking from one hind, the usual machine gun quick blows that got me on the knee and nearly floored me. Managed to keep going till we finished but nearly 4 weeks later it is only just beginning to improve. This may sound crazy but I take the view that my body was designed perfect and has the ability to heal itself. Yes of course I have had accidents and been in hospital several times for major repairs but that is farming. But provided we take care with the quality of our diet and avoid all the things like smoking and booze we should be relatively ok.
I understand that it might not be possible to avoid inherited conditions but as you have said if you know what they are you still have the choice to do things that mitigate their effects.
Wishing you good health to carry on doing what you enjoy.

By the way all the deer passed the TB test ok, not even any lumps that warranted measuring.
 
This may sound crazy but I take the view that my body was designed perfect and has the ability to heal itself. Yes of course I have had accidents and been in hospital several times for major repairs but that is farming. But provided we take care with the quality of our diet and avoid all the things like smoking and booze we should be relatively ok.

That’s a great reply and I appreciate it. Unfortunately it’s a fact of life that my lot smoke and drink like it’s their last day on Earth. Plus whatever hereditary conditions they may or may not know about.

I guess my point is that we have people that love us, that depend on us. Would you let your wife, son or daughter avoid the doctor just because they didn’t like the idea of an inspection? I doubt you would. You would want them to be given the best possible chance to make it into old age and a life well lived. Why we men often choose not to apply that logic to ourselves is one of the great mysteries of our culture.
 
This may sound crazy but I take the view that my body was designed perfect and has the ability to heal itself.

No - not crazy. Just optimistic. I think (at 50) that it becomes less true the further you get from 28.

How long are we meant to last anyway? Not so far past our 30's, perhaps, without the civil/sanitary engineering (first) and medical intervention (second) which we take for granted these days.

Hunde, wollt ihr ewig leben? Well, insofar as it is a good life - yes!
:)
 
I have to agree with everything you have said.
It all went wrong for me ten years ago at that time I was also found to have a blood pressure reading almost identical
to yours.
Since then it has been a series of health issues starting with my heart, I am no longer
invincible but a change in attitude to seeking help for health matters means I'm still here.
 
Dodgyknees

There's absolutely no need for any form of apology on your part mate for starting such a thread and for going into such depth personally.
lf anything it should become a "STICKY" as a reminder to us all that we are human, not Super Human, and that there are folks out there both family and friends that rely on us all to take better care of ourselves for their sakes.

l too had a hypertensive episode last year, and it's not funny when it arrives out of the blue and thumps you up the side of the head like it does, so my sympathies and take care mate.

To the rest of you that bother to follow this thread do as the man says, if you feel something's not right go and get it checked out.... You owe it to others not just your selves!!
 
A bit over a year ago i went to the health center because of a persistent cough and lack of breath. After a look over by a nurse and then the Doctor i was sent strait to hospital with heart problems . Three days in hospital with all the tests and a course of tablets and things are back to as normal as they are ever likely to be. I had a Ultra sound test and ECG three weeks ago and all's OK. I must just just keep taking the tablets.
I consider my self lucky that I reached 70 without ever having to take medication and only ever broken bones in that time.
 
Hi DN.
Thankyou for posting and best wishes on your recovery. I am sure that many men can put themselves in your position. I know I can. The older you get the more important it is to listen to your body and take the necessary steps, be it hearing aids or medicals. I know that after 30 yrs of tree/arb work there isn't a day I wake up without an ache somewhere, and don't mention the hearing loss with chainsaws, drag racing and shooting.
Best wishes.
Toby
 
Your postings are all ways read with great interest and what you have said is true of us , the other great change for us fella's is coming into retirement were we loose that connection of being a much depended part of the job and being lost , We relocated as well so that went with it , I started a little business that connected me back to the community and as you say we need to be understanding of our selves physically and mentally ,
 
Wishing you a speedy recovery Dodgyknees.

I rarely went to the doctors before I hit 50 (didn't need to) but since then I've become a regular visitor & get everything checked as required.
We're very lucky with the GP surgery & the NHS where we are & always get seen quickly.
 
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well im 67, and last year packed the ciggys up after 55years, packed booze up in 1991, wow i sound boring, i have got a couple of problems which are getting sorted, but i can walk for miles and you wouldnt believe the ammount of money ive saved, i could go and buy a blaser mmmmmmmmmmmmm no! good luck to you guys and its never to late bs.
 
Dodgy, what a great post, glad to hear you're on the mend buddy.

The conversation your boys had with you reminded me on one I had with my father, and I always remembered when I had some issues, thinking it's nothing, it'll pass, but then recalled that conversation and thought I'd be a right hypocrite if I ignored it.......glad I did.

Cheers
 
Dodgy I think you have done a great thing by posting what you have done and I hope that things get better for you in the future. So many of us like to think that we are indestructable - But we are certainly not! I used to think that way but at nearly 69 years old and after 2 heart attacks I tend to think differently now and spend a bit more time listening to my body and talking to the wife if I am not feeling too good.
We should all take notice of what you have said and get ourselves checked over now and then, especially if we feel that something is not "quite right!
 
Great post dodgy, us ruffty tuffty outdoor types need a shake up mate.

I do not fall into the category of “I never go to the Doctor” if there is anything I am not happy with, I am down the surgery, and they can stick whatever they want, wherever they want. Since around the age of 57 I go to the “Well Man” clinic and have my bloods checked every 3 years or so, Cholesterol, Diabetes, PSA and any other things that may show up, and the obvious blood pressure check.

A good mate of mine would proudly state “I have not been to the Doctors for 35 years” bigger fool him. I buried him aged 58, did the speech at his funeral in front of his wife, kids and grandkids. He had been feeling breathless for a while and had a heart attack.

Get to the Doctors surgery and get a check up fellas............It is not big or macho to not visit your GP.

Again, good post Dodgy.
 
One tablet a day is fine. Alarm goes, feet hit the floor, tab goes down the neck. That's the default that will keep your BP stable life-long except - in my case - when the quack from the insurance company drops by to double-check at renewal time, at which point my blood pressure shoots through the roof regardless and my premiums double as a result. Again.

For those new to BP tabs, there are odd side effects to look out for. A permanent, itchy cough? Wrong tab. Ankles swell up? Wrong tab. Third time lucky for me.

Good luck with yours DK.
 
One tablet a day is fine. Alarm goes, feet hit the floor, tab goes down the neck. That's the default that will keep your BP stable life-long except - in my case - when the quack from the insurance company drops by to double-check at renewal time, at which point my blood pressure shoots through the roof regardless and my premiums double as a result. Again.

For those new to BP tabs, there are odd side effects to look out for. A permanent, itchy cough? Wrong tab. Ankles swell up? Wrong tab. Third time lucky for me.

Good luck with yours DK.
What you refer to is called “White coat syndrome”. A friend of mine had type two diabetes. His blood pressure was always high when the nurse checked it, but normal when the doctor checked. Mind you I don’t think he fancied the doctor :lol:
Joking aside you might try taking your own pressure and giving them the results as a counter to the one higher reading they take.
Wrong tablet been there first ones I got my ankles disappeared. The current ones seem to be ok though.
 
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