countrryboy
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Badgers also target bumble bee nests, 1 off the few animals that does, that I know about.
Not sure if the same study or not, but 1 off the big hedgehog charities ( Mr tiddkewinkies?? Or something) and commissioned a very early study in some off the trial sits before the badger full rolled out fully.
And found as the above study but they were actually scared to publise it, incase it cost them support/donations.
Was at the time anti cull was in full force.
Wot really needs to happen and absolutely no org has the balls for it.
Is a real proper unemotional debate about predators and there protection.
No animal should have complete protection no matter wot, no matter how it's population rises and the effect they have on other more vulnerable species locally.
This nation wide approach simply does not work.
If an area has lots of a nationally rare species either let them control them under licence ( which is actually the law, and as NGO proved in court EN were acting illegally not granting them, but then done nothing???)
Or brood manage them, take some young away to other areas
I'm not talking about wiping out any species, but when u can count tens circling on thermals or 30 on ploughed fields, or 130 odd RK coming to an artificial bait station when 20 years ago wasn't a single 1.
That is not normal or healthy.
U wouldn't allow that many foxes in an area, yet they al eat the same stuff.
Even barnacle geese in my area, u spray to the farmers round the wet reserve, they can all mind in 70s when population was down to about 3000 and we're happy to help conserve them, now about 70 odd thousand come not so happy.
How many is enough???
I know in my area u could easily manage buzzards, badgers, otters, red kites.
Very rare to see a kestral nowadays used to be loads when I grew up.
In other areas I'm sure u could also manage Pine Martin to help conserve capercaillie and wild cats.
I can see in the very near future red squirrel groups really pushing for widespread PM release to help fight the Grey's, it's just the cost to wider ecosystem they don't seem to care about.
In America for wildfowl they constantly monitor and assess numbers of migratory geese and alter quotas, culls and seasons to suit.
Dunno if that would work but there needs to be a more commonsense approach lead by people who know wot their talking about not just the 'ology' brigade.
Will never happen in this country thou far far too disneyfied nowadays.
Also sadly the time for reasoned debate led by science ( apart from Corona virus ) is long gone thanks to social media
Not sure if the same study or not, but 1 off the big hedgehog charities ( Mr tiddkewinkies?? Or something) and commissioned a very early study in some off the trial sits before the badger full rolled out fully.
And found as the above study but they were actually scared to publise it, incase it cost them support/donations.
Was at the time anti cull was in full force.
Wot really needs to happen and absolutely no org has the balls for it.
Is a real proper unemotional debate about predators and there protection.
No animal should have complete protection no matter wot, no matter how it's population rises and the effect they have on other more vulnerable species locally.
This nation wide approach simply does not work.
If an area has lots of a nationally rare species either let them control them under licence ( which is actually the law, and as NGO proved in court EN were acting illegally not granting them, but then done nothing???)
Or brood manage them, take some young away to other areas
I'm not talking about wiping out any species, but when u can count tens circling on thermals or 30 on ploughed fields, or 130 odd RK coming to an artificial bait station when 20 years ago wasn't a single 1.
That is not normal or healthy.
U wouldn't allow that many foxes in an area, yet they al eat the same stuff.
Even barnacle geese in my area, u spray to the farmers round the wet reserve, they can all mind in 70s when population was down to about 3000 and we're happy to help conserve them, now about 70 odd thousand come not so happy.
How many is enough???
I know in my area u could easily manage buzzards, badgers, otters, red kites.
Very rare to see a kestral nowadays used to be loads when I grew up.
In other areas I'm sure u could also manage Pine Martin to help conserve capercaillie and wild cats.
I can see in the very near future red squirrel groups really pushing for widespread PM release to help fight the Grey's, it's just the cost to wider ecosystem they don't seem to care about.
In America for wildfowl they constantly monitor and assess numbers of migratory geese and alter quotas, culls and seasons to suit.
Dunno if that would work but there needs to be a more commonsense approach lead by people who know wot their talking about not just the 'ology' brigade.
Will never happen in this country thou far far too disneyfied nowadays.
Also sadly the time for reasoned debate led by science ( apart from Corona virus ) is long gone thanks to social media
