Nicola Sturgeon deems PM's visit to Scotland - non-essential
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I'm inclined to agree with Bojo here, the PMs job is to do this sort of thing. Same when the Royals were travelling, it is pretty much what their job entails.
Unless she is making all her own public announcements via Zoom from her front room, then she is also making unnecessary trips, as does she absolutely 'need' to be in Holyrood to make announcements?
Unless she is making all her own public announcements via Zoom from her front room, then she is also making unnecessary trips, as does she absolutely 'need' to be in Holyrood to make announcements?
Yet another example of grievance politics we have had for years up here...... the flag waving morons who cheer for her will lap it up as they haven't the brains to see there is no substance behind the hype. The BBC and STV are so craven to the SNP that this will be repeated endlessly and without question. She's desperate not to talk about what her and her husband knew about Salmond as one or both have been lying to the Holyrood "parliament" about her predecessor, she's also desperate not to talk about the financial mismanagement of the country and the destruction of what used to be a fairly good education system. Sadly her only election ploy is now "I'm not Boris, so I'm much better than him.....".
I'm surprised she didn't go all the way and add “.…… which is another reason for a 2nd referendum on Scottish independence”! The women is shameless but I nearly spat my coffee when Gordon Brown stuck one on her when being interviewed by the BBC on Saturday:
"I am afraid Nicola Sturgeon and the Scottish National Party see the whole future of the United Kingdom in terms of a battle between Scotland and the rest of the United Kingdom.”
K
"I am afraid Nicola Sturgeon and the Scottish National Party see the whole future of the United Kingdom in terms of a battle between Scotland and the rest of the United Kingdom.”
K
Freeforester
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Ex justice minister and well-known Nat muppet Kenny MacAskill commuting between his second home in North East Scotland and his work in the plague-ridden Central belt; Ms FerrierSNP MP commuting the length of the country when she knew she was 'positive' and displaying the symptoms; the fired Chief Medical Officer up here - they can all teach Dominic Cummings a thing or two; Boris can't even be a shedder-spreader, having had the lurgy late March last year...
bobthedug
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He is a freelance journalist. He cannot work from home.
hughsurrey
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I gave up on all that nonsence when Salmond stopped ex-pats from voting in the first referendum, there is a massive difference between voting in local politics and having a vote in the future of the country where you were born and bred.
Freeforester
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Might it not be germane to discuss the somehow inconvenient yet convincing implications of an ‘independent’ Scotland, eg currency, central banking arrangements, pension and asset values before declaring it a viable idea? The proposed re-entry to the EU as a pathway to a new economic 'host' by the Nationalistas does not stand up to either economic scrutiny or the small matter of convincing the likes of Spain and Belgium into consenting, given their own little local difficulties. As for oil revenues, see the ScotGov's own GERS figures and forecast.
The matter of the U.K. referendum was determined by 28 of the 32 local authority areas in Scotland - why would Scotland wish to cut themselves off from their best and closest trading partner and export market at a newly non-EU forward-funded Hadrian’s wall?
Opinion polls etc might be of greater worth if they were of the 'informed' variety...
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I'm no fan of Salmond, the SNP or Scottish Independence, but why should people who did not live in Scotland at the time of the referendum be allowed to vote in it?
Country of birth and country of residence are two entirely different things.
Using your argument, you should be allowed to go back to your place of birth to vote in that constituency at every general election, Scottish parliamentary election and local election - is that what you want?
If you do that, you would have to forfeit your vote in the constituency where you now live - because you can't legally have two votes
Cheers
Bruce
bobthedug
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To the education system, add Police, Fire and Rescue and Ambulance Service and the fact that we have the worst drug death numbers in Europe.
But hey ho, they can divert their efforts into Indy ref 2 in the middle of all thats going on.
It is, as long as he stays isolated in some ffff off grid wilderness.
The simple counter-argument is...do you not understand what nationality is?
If the Scots are voting on whether or not to become a nation, how on earth can it be defensible to exclude Scots from the vote? Their present location is irrelevant.
bobthedug
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Spain has gone on record and voiced their disapproval of Scottish Government following the debacle when the Catalonia Professor from St Andrews University was arrested on charges of Sedition.Might it not be germane to discuss the somehow inconvenient yet convincing implications of an ‘independent’ Scotland, eg currency, central banking arrangements, pension and asset values before declaring it a viable idea? The proposed re-entry to the EU as a pathway to a new economic 'host' by the Nationalistas does not stand up to either economic scrutiny or the small matter of convincing the likes of Spain and Belgium into consenting, given their own little local difficulties. As for oil revenues, see the ScotGov's own GERS figures and forecast.
The matter of the U.K. referendum was determined by 28 of the 32 local authority areas in Scotland - why would Scotland wish to cut themselves off from their best and closest trading partner and export market at a newly non-EU forward-funded Hadrian’s wall?
Opinion polls etc might be of greater worth if they were of the 'informed' variety...
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They would not support Scotland in any attempt to re enter the EU
Freeforester
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So we're agreed - Mare tranquillitatis for springwatch '21 it is then - where's the crowdfund page?
Freeforester
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They are actually the big sisters blouses in a minority governing power coalition, propped up by the green cockwombles, if I'm not mistaken? I think they only had about 45% electorate support, which doesn't seem to be a bigger number than 55%, the views of whom they do not represent? Nor does that entitle them to claim the majority of the electorate are, ergo, in favour of another referendum.
Credit where it's due, they're brilliant at getting their vote out - it's as if their benefits were hanging on it...
hughsurrey
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Bruce, I am fairly sure my message said "there is a massive difference between voting in local politics and having a vote in the future of the country where you were born and bred". I don't live in Scotland, so I would not be expected to consulted about local or even national politics (general elections) and I don't think my post suggested that I would ever want to. However, a referendum to seperate Scotland from the United kingdom is beyond party politics (local or national) and for Salmond to suggest that Scots (wherever they live) do not have a voice or a vote in something that affects the future of their country is arrogant in the extreme, particularly when the vote denied to those Scots was extended to any EU citizen over the age of 16 irrespective of the amount of time they had lived there.
Absolutely right. It is runs counter to the way pretty much every other real country does it. If you have nationality, you have a vote - including expats.
