Thermal evening with Mealie jimmy ie Bruce.

Doric

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Bruce will have some of the latest thermal sights and spotter's for you to play with on thursday night at Schivas estate, Ythanbank near Ellon Aberdeenshire.
Always best to use these things for yourself before you buy as we have found that price is not an indication of performance.
Meet at Ythanbank on the Methlick bend 9.45pm.
Mike from Ythan field sport supplies will be on hand to offer competitive prices should you find the unit that suits you.
 
I'll be bringing along the following thermals::
Pulsar Helion 2 XP50 pro (this is Pulsars flagship thermal spotter) - courtesy of Blackwood Outdoors
IRay Rico RL42 thermal riflescope -courtesy of Blackwood Outdoors
T Ceptor Pro 55-3 thermal riflescope - courtesy of Clive Ward at the Night Vision Store
Pulsar Krytpton FXG50 thermal front add on/spotter
I believe Mike from Ythan Fieldsports has at least one HIK thermal spotter he'll bring along and there will probably be an older Pulsar Helion XQ38F and Pulsar Themion XQ50

Cheers

Bruce
 
I'll be bringing along the following thermals::
Pulsar Helion 2 XP50 pro (this is Pulsars flagship thermal spotter) - courtesy of Blackwood Outdoors
IRay Rico RL42 thermal riflescope -courtesy of Blackwood Outdoors
T Ceptor Pro 55-3 thermal riflescope - courtesy of Clive Ward at the Night Vision Store
Pulsar Krytpton FXG50 thermal front add on/spotter
I believe Mike from Ythan Fieldsports has at least one HIK thermal spotter he'll bring along and there will probably be an older Pulsar Helion XQ38F and Pulsar Themion XQ50

Cheers

Bruce
Hi Bruce

Will you be posting your findings on here ? (please 🙏)

Cheers

Ade
 
Yes.
It's my intention to get each attendee to give each thermal a score out of 10
there's particular interest in the Rico RL42 and T Ceptor Pro 55-3 so getting as many individual impressions of these scopes as possible is one of my main goals for the evening.
Obviously, the more people turn up the better!!

Cheers

Bruce
 
OK, the thermal demo night went well, here's my report

Thermal demo night at Schivas Estate, Aberdeenshire, 5 August 2021

We had nine people come along to the thermal demo evening, and all appeared to enjoy it.

The following thermals were set up side by side so that it was easy to make direct comparisons between them

T Ceptor Pro 55-3 thermal riflescope

I Ray Rico RL42 thermal riflescope

Pulsar Hellion 2 XP50 Pro thermal spotter

Pulsar Krypton FXG thermal front add-on fitted to an Athlon Midas HMR2.5-15x50 riflescope

We also had a Pulsar Thermion XQ50 mounted on a rifle with the rifle sitting in a hog saddle on Rekon tripod

There was also a HIK Micro lynx Pro 19 being handed around for people to have a look through (but not included in the scoring)

The weather was dry, overcast but no mist or fog, humidity about 90% and temperature about 13 deg C

All the thermals were set up at base magnification, white hot and with brightness and contrast around the middle of their settings range.

I know that there are almost certainly better settings than these for all the thermal scopes, and also that most people play round with the settings to find what is, for them, the “sweet spot”

Unfortunately there was not the time available to go through all the settings on each thermal with everyone who was there. Also, trying to remember the menu and command structure for five different thermals ain’t easy for an old fart like me!

We got lucky and had a fox appear in a freshly cut field below the place where we were viewing from and it’s range varied from about 150 -200 yards

At 200 yards, all four thermal scopes gave an image that was more than good enough to give a safe shot and, with the proper rifle and a reasonable shooter , a clean kill.

Even the HIK19mm gave an image of the fox at 150 yards which was good enough (given how it moved) to be confident that it was a fox and not a badger

Based purely on the image that each thermal produced (no prices involved) I asked each person to give a score out of ten for each of the 5 thermals;

Here are the results

ThermalTotal scoreMinimum givenMaximum givenAverage
T Ceptor Pro 55-358496.44
I Ray Rico RL42656107.22
Pulsar Helion 2 XP50 Pro80898.88
Pulsar Krypton FXG5057496.33
Pulsar Thermion XQ5066597.33


Remember that there are lies, damned lies and statistics, so be very careful about reading too much into the results.

My main takeaways are:

  • There’s nowt as strange as folk!!!!
  • The Pulsar hellion 2 XP50 pro was the clear winner – one person gave it 8, all the others gave it 9,
  • It rather blows a hole in the “17 micron is old hat, 12 micron is where it’s at” hype – and I’ll admit I’m as guilty as anyone when it comes to going along with the hype.
  • It looks like a 17 micron 25mK core with good software can do a better job than some 12 micron 40-50mK cores with different software
  • There’s not a huge difference in the scores between the other four thermals and I was surprised the older Thermion XQ50 did so well compared to newer, more expensive thermals
  • In the T Ceptor Pro 55-3 V RL42 battle, the RL42 came out on top with 5 people giving it a higher score and the only one giving the T Ceptor a higher score
These demo nights don’t happen without a lot of people helping out so I’d like to thank the following:

Clive Ward from the Night Vision Store for the use of the T Ceptor Pro 55-3

Ian Blackwood from Blackwood Outdoors for the use of the Rico RL42 and the superb Pulsar Helion 2 XP50 Pro (they could make the name a bit shorter tho!!)

Mike Mclellan from Ythan Field Sport Supply for providing the excellent location for the evening (and organising the timely appearance of a fox!)



Cheers



Bruce
 
Cheers Bruce

Much appreciated & the results were a bit different from what I’d expected just from reading the various posts on here & other NV forums.
 
Its the opinion of 9 people at the end of the day - and anything scored with someone's eyes is likely to vary greatly between individuals.

Owning or having owned 5 of the 6 units above, and having used the other, I'm somewhat bamboozled that the 55-3 was given a low of 4 versus the RL42 that got a low of 6 and came out on top of the two for instance. Also amazed the 42 was the only unit given a 10 over the others on test, unless cost was factored in. The Infiray units are (for me personally) excessively contrasty which gives a bit of an initial wow-factor v more 'neutral' displays I find.

The Krypton low score is also a bit of a weird one to me, its in a league of its own as a front mount. I guess its inclusion in the test is what it is, being compared to dedicated spotters/scopes, of which its neither.

I wouldn't argue about the Pro being the top of the pile at the moment, nor that the Thermion XQ50 is still a decent scope choice.
 
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