Anti vaxxers need to do some research.

[Lloyd90]

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The OP and many respondents to this thread conflate the rational and fact-based scepticism about the covid-vaccine with a less rational aversion to all vaccines.


Put simply, a rational position is:

• Most vaccines are proven good and effective
• Most vaccines are neccesary
• Covid vaccines have too many unknowns [#58 above covers it]
• Covid has a 99.98% survival rate , even in the absence of vaccines [UK govt ONS data]

The issue wasn’t Covid. The issue was the lack of capacity in the NHS.

We wouldn’t have been over run with deaths from
Covid, but we would have been over run with 60+ year olds clogging up Hospitals to the point they were unable to function.

We are already seeing a lot of people complaining that ‘non-essential’ procedures were stopped, and we have an enormous back log.

I have worked in Hospitals and they have been non stop with essential work.

If they have been flooded with old people with Covid they wouldn’t have even been able to do basic proper emergency stuff.

As you say the vaccine has massively reduced the amount of people effected by Covid and the amount of people going to Hospital.

That was the whole point.

 

[John Galt]

Eating my veggies and making other healthy food choices, ie unjabbed meat such as venison and rabbit, exercising, getting decent sleep , vitamin D, zinc, elderberry syrup or Ginger drink, avoiding crowds, and relaxing in the sun whilst disconnecting from the main stream media propoganda has been 100% effective for me and mine.

Others choose injections of untested experimental drug cocktails and I respect their choice, thats freedom.

They, however, do not respect mine.

Apparently its important to get vaccinated (with graphene oxide and MRNA containing no virus to build anti bodies! ) or a vaccinated person might get ill from the virus, that they vaccinated against, from an unvaccinated person who doesn't get sick. Go figure.

If in five or ten years time I decide to get jabbed after considering all the evidence at that point, including the VAERS information, thats my choice.
I can always add the jab, if I feel that I am in the 0.003% high risk group.

If the balance of facts tips the other way, how are those who chose to participate in this rushed medical experiment going to get the chemicals out of their system??

Another concern is the Deagel web site which is predicting a 70-80% reduction in GLOBAL population, as part of the Davos crowd, Great Reset and agenda 21, by 2025.

How would you terminate this many people in this timeframe? Without destroying the planet by nuclear war?

Covid 19 (common cold) was a fear psyop in order to get millions to unquestionably offer their arm, driven by fear and getting their so called freedoms back from this tyranny.

 

[Fair Hill]

Eating my veggies and making other healthy food choices, ie unjabbed meat such as venison and rabbit, exercising, getting decent sleep , vitamin D, zinc, elderberry syrup or Ginger drink, avoiding crowds, and relaxing in the sun whilst disconnecting from the main stream media propoganda has been 100% effective for me and mine.

Others choose injections of untested experimental drug cocktails and I respect their choice, thats freedom.

They, however, do not respect mine.

Apparently its important to get vaccinated (with graphene oxide and MRNA containing no virus to build anti bodies! ) or a vaccinated person might get ill from the virus, that they vaccinated against, from an unvaccinated person who doesn't get sick. Go figure.

If in five or ten years time I decide to get jabbed after considering all the evidence at that point, including the VAERS information, thats my choice.
I can always add the jab, if I feel that I am in the 0.003% high risk group.

If the balance of facts tips the other way, how are those who chose to participate in this rushed medical experiment going to get the chemicals out of their system??

Another concern is the Deagel web site which is predicting a 70-80% reduction in GLOBAL population, as part of the Davos crowd, Great Reset and agenda 21, by 2025.

How would you terminate this many people in this timeframe? Without destroying the planet by nuclear war?

Covid 19 (common cold) was a fear psyop in order to get millions to unquestionably offer their arm, driven by fear and getting their so called freedoms back from this tyranny.

How did you stumble upon that website?

 

[Freeforester]

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We are in the shlt!

Consider the evidence, not the propaganda, most folk swallow what the BBC tell them, but they aren’t sufficiently Interested to look beyond the headlines and find out eg how the virus operates, how it’s means of attack can be prevented, Emergency Use Authorisation medicines v proven safe alternatives, how they defend the body from attack, etc.

In the end, the public are not given enough information to form an informed opinion, so they are unable to discern which might be the better/best strategy to protect themselves, or what’s happening in the fight elsewhere, where the prospects are far brighter, not least because others are choosing a different horse to back. There’s precious little reporting of the widespread adverse reactions and indeed fatalities caused by the jabs, nor the emergence of ‘breakthrough’ variants, against which the jabs are largely ineffective in the containment of the pandemic.

We are told that if you’re double jabbed, and go on to contract the virus, whether a) by letting down your guard in the belief that you are somehow safe, or indeed b) despite taking continued precautions, or c) any otherwise, well, don’t worry too much, because at least it won’t be so bad for your own prospects; but little is said about the prospects of those you have unwittingly spread the virus to, or those whom they in turn will pass it on to - the virus has got your number, and carries on. Surely the better thing to do is to protect yourself in such a way as to prevent such continuation of the pandemic, thus hastening its end?

I feel it’s very much down to how much responsibility you are personally either willing to face up to, or are, conversely, content to delegate to others. Lack of education on the subject ensures that the pandemic will run its full anticipated course, just as surely as leaky jabs will hasten its evolution into newer, potentially more virulent, but always cleverer, more evasive strains. In our time it has never been easier to elicit sound evidence from numerous eminent and checkable sources, and form ones own judgement. Would I buy a used rifle from Boris? Unlikely - would I rather place my trust in a failing and obviously risky emergency use (only) authorised yet not fully trialled nor declared safe medicine just because he and his pals think it’s a good idea? I’d sooner look again at the wonky rifle, it might be the less dangerous bet In the end.

Is the ‘science’ settled? How come ivermectin works the way it does, and against all variants?- why don’t the BBC look into that? - the old ‘90’s BBC2 Horizon programme, or someone with a sensible manner over on BBC4 etc would have easily explained in simple terms for those bored of ‘strictly’ or ‘lurv island’ how it functions, but this would not of course be welcomed by those who want to show only their ’shining path’, claiming that theirs is the only cure, and to deny all other viewpoints - yet all the while - prevention is always the better bet.

 

[John Galt]

How did you stumble upon that website?

Went down the rabbit hole of finding out about the “Great Reset“ which led on to Agenda 21, The Davos crowd, and lots of other conspiracy theorys.

The diference between conspiracy theories and facts is about a year.

 

[Fair Hill]

How did you stumble upon that website?

Went down the rabbit hole of finding out about the “Great Reset“ which led on to Agenda 21, The Davos crowd, and lots of other conspiracy theorys.

The diference between conspiracy theories and facts is about a year.

Anything is possible.

 

[John Gryphon]

AB, bolster your chances and reduce the risk of infection to ZERO by taking a dab of Ivermectin once a week. If/when they all do, there’ll be no more pandemic.

Can you please advise as to which manufacturers Ivermectin product and how much you personally take in every week please?
Doses etc.

There is surely something in this as my cows all look nice and shiny.

 

[mealiejimmy]

Eating my veggies and making other healthy food choices, ie unjabbed meat such as venison and rabbit, exercising, getting decent sleep , vitamin D, zinc, elderberry syrup or Ginger drink, avoiding crowds, and relaxing in the sun whilst disconnecting from the main stream media propoganda has been 100% effective for me and mine.

Others choose injections of untested experimental drug cocktails and I respect their choice, thats freedom.

They, however, do not respect mine.

Apparently its important to get vaccinated (with graphene oxide and MRNA containing no virus to build anti bodies! ) or a vaccinated person might get ill from the virus, that they vaccinated against, from an unvaccinated person who doesn't get sick. Go figure.

If in five or ten years time I decide to get jabbed after considering all the evidence at that point, including the VAERS information, thats my choice.
I can always add the jab, if I feel that I am in the 0.003% high risk group.

If the balance of facts tips the other way, how are those who chose to participate in this rushed medical experiment going to get the chemicals out of their system??

Another concern is the Deagel web site which is predicting a 70-80% reduction in GLOBAL population, as part of the Davos crowd, Great Reset and agenda 21, by 2025.

How would you terminate this many people in this timeframe? Without destroying the planet by nuclear war?

Covid 19 (common cold) was a fear psyop in order to get millions to unquestionably offer their arm, driven by fear and getting their so called freedoms back from this tyranny.

What size tinfoil helmet do you wear?

Cheers

Bruce

 

[foxdropper]

Tiny

 

[John Galt]

He who laughs last.

 

[palmer_mike]

Tiny

Seems like it may be restricting the flow of
Blood to the brain?

 

[Mike L]

He who laughs last.

Is usually the last to get the joke

 

[John Galt]

Ridicule is the first and last arguement of fools (Charles Simmons)

Enjoy your clot shots and ADE and your never ending booster shots. When you have had ten booster shots will you be blaming the eight booster shot takers for the Greek alphabet variants ?

Just remember who to be angry with when and if, you wake up, assuming you do, before you check out.

Looking forward to returning to this thread in two years, ironically headed "anti vaxxers need to do some research"
just to see who made it.

 

[mealiejimmy]

"Who is John Galt?" (Atlas Shrugged 1957) - that'll not be you then?

Cheers

Bruce

 

[Freeforester]

Can you please advise as to which manufacturers Ivermectin product and how much you personally take in every week please?
Doses etc.

There is surely something in this as my cows all look nice and shiny.

Ivermectin is ivermectin, it doesn’t really matter whether it is lotion for treating scabies (just prior to the coming of the lurgy, two separate old folks homes, in Toronto, Canada, and in France, I forget where, but both homes suffered an outbreak of scabies among their cared for, and both were treated with topical cream containing ivermectin; a few weeks later, while the nursing staff were going down with the Covid, none of the treated ‘inmates’ with their failing immune systems got sick) or in oral paste form prepared for worming horses, etc, the latter is offered usually in 1,87% w/w strength, in a calibrated plunger syringe and the per body kg dosage is the same for human treatment as it is for horses, so you’d simply dial up your body weight on the plunger, set the lock ring so you don’t squeeze out too much (not that it matters so much, in 2002 a study was conducted where human volunteers took up to 1000 times the recommended dose without severe consequences, that is why I simply laugh at the suggestion that it is dangerous - are your cattle really shiny, or just dying of Ivm poisoning???)

Nor do you hear of any or all the owners of horses around the planet poisoning their animals or livestock by means of ivermectin, neither where the drug has been given 3,7 billion times to humans before in exactly the same dosage rate for anti parasitic purposes and parasite borne illnesses such as river blindness, etc. Consider the evidence. A syringe of the stuff is 98% food ingredients in daily use, the rest is the stuff that makes your cattle shiny, and you’d probably get a tube to treat yourself 7-8 times over for Aus $10 or so, they usually come in volumes sufficient for 600 more typically 700kg - it’s because it’s too easy for folk to treat themselves that the scare stories and scorn is heaped on when the suggestion is made. If they put a human on the box instead of a horse, and charged 10 times the price, then maybe the resistance would be different. Think about it, and do some simple research. Canada, India etc offer it in pill form online, but you’ll be paying through the nose for something no more effective than the paste form available locally.

Only problem? For big pharma, and those having a jolly profitable pandemic - it doesn’t make Cents…

 

[John Gryphon]

I gather then that you have been taking it then,how much of it a week? Orally or are you rubbing it into your skin?

 

[Freeforester]

Look up covidcriticalcare.com it’s all there, under imask protocol,or search online for Professor Paul Marik, of FLCCC - the frontline Covid critical care alliance. You’ll get all your questions answered by an expert there. But if a syringe with 7.5grammes of paste can treat 700 kilos of bodyweight and is calibrated in kilos or indeed pounds along the stem, I’m sure you’ll manage to figure it out, with the help of any number of YT how to videos.

 

[John Gryphon]

But I was asking you how much you actually take yourself FF,I can look up schitt till the cows come home,i`m asking someone in the real world thats taking it so I can hear 'first instance'
Thanks

 

[Freeforester]

I take the recommended dose as I’ve described, and if you read again some of the posts you see I’m taking it monthly because my personal assessment of risk is extremely low, my partner takes it fortnightly, because her risk is very low indeed in her workplace, but if you take it weekly as recommended by FLCCC imask protocol, your chances of contracting the virus are zero. I’ll add, when I do jump on a plane or go where I feel the risk might be higher, I simply dab out a blob a day or two before and take it, on a full stomach, without alcohol, etc, just as is recommended. But everyone is different, and I’m only the bloke who shoots deer, not a doctor, so I suggest respectfully that you do your own research and make you own plan.

in case you missed this, here’s the best explanation so far as to why we need even to bother with any of this:

 

[Freeforester]