Is BASC membership worth it?

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Basil H I can now see why Council members leave BASC and so many members are leaving. Does any one in BASC excluding Conor ever read any shooting sites and see our we all feel and treated.
 
gerarddwatts said:
All of us should belong to several groups.

7 pages of twaddle about 70 or 80 quid? Some of you boys need to get out more.
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In all fairness not everyone can afford to belong to several organisations. I am sure there are a number of people on here who have young families and mortgages, and a further £60 or £80 is a lot to them.
Its an individual choice which organisation someone belongs too. They all offer insurance of some sort, and not everyone is in line to fork out 30k plus for a new 4x4, so this may also be irrelevant. The vast majority I think would appreciate an organisation that fights tooth and nail for us. I have yet to see one myself.
 
So, even the site staff join in the org-bashing. What fun, eh? Use SD to promote your own commercial shooting enterprise while slagging off the orgs that do their best without distributing profit. Or am I being unfair?
 
To be fair to sikamalc I put up a notice for help in gralloching he answered my call.
He showed me how to gralloch free of charge is this not helping a newbie so why should we not get help when we are paying BASC.
 
I’ve never had cause to call on the services BASC offer but I have supported them throughout as per WAGBI and the British field sports association and will continue to do so as well as the BDS it’s all we have as a voice when everyone is being fed crap about anti shooting and eating meat, firearms etc etc

if I’m honest if you don’t support them don’t bleat when further restrictions are imposed for legitimate firearms and sporting activities
 
Whitefront said:
So, even the site staff join in the org-bashing. What fun, eh? Use SD to promote your own commercial shooting enterprise while slagging off the orgs that do their best without distributing profit. Or am I being unfair?
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What is this!!
I am not bashing BASC, as I pointed out, there are other organisations to belong to. The choice is up to the individual.

Am I a member of BASC, no I am not. I left over 18 years ago, my reasons are quite clear, I have nothing to hide. I offered and gave a whole week stalking in the highlands away for a young shot at the time, only to be told a few weeks later that he had been tragically killed, leaving his parents devastated. BASC were told at the time, and didnt even bother to respond, nor did they send a letter or a card to his parents. Along with a few other issues with BASC I left.

If you want me to bash them , how about this. How about they start listening to the ordinary membership, and communicate with them.

I am one of the main owners of this site. Along with some of the wonderful members of this site we help a lot of people out, and have raised money for a number of charities. And we have an expanding membership, which started at around 700 and is now fast approaching 27,000.

I am a member of BDS which is a charity and the NGO. So I do contribute to other established organisations. And yes I am a full time deer stalker running a business. So what has this got to do with BASC and you then?
 
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Yeah right, dont split hairs mate. You want to support them, fine by me, if I am biased then yes, I will not rejoin them. You now know the main reason, along with all the other members on here, why I left, never to return.
 
It's not splitting hairs; you jumped to a conclusion and you were wrong. I am a member of BASC, NGO, GWCT and BDS. In my own opinion, shooters who do not join any org at all are freeloaders. Commercial shooting enterprises that disparage the best efforts of shooting orgs in general, as you did ("...I have yet to see one myself"), effectively discouraging people from supporting any of them, are worse.
 
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Well that's your opinion. Mine tends to differ from yours.
I support BDS and NGO and have done for many years.
I speak as I find. And I started my business a long time back when BASC was probably WAGBI
 
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Whitefront said:
I am a member of BASC, NGO, GWCT and BDS. In my own opinion, shooters who do not join any org at all are freeloaders.
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In my opinion , you are a minority , and talking completely out your back side.

Because you are a member of 4 paid orgs , do you think that gives you some kind of superiority over someone in 1 , or none ?
You talk about the best efforts of shooting orgs , yet BASC , which this thread is about, has put NO real effort into fighting the real issues that we have faced in the last 5 years, its INVITED a lead ban , when no one was even discussing it.
It did naff all about the GP notes , beside tell members not to pay it, creating issues for shooters who followed their advice.
It pretended to 'sort out ' the wild justice GL challenge , when it was really just an interested party, they paid nothing toward the legal challenge , but if you read their blurb , it was like BASC took WJ to court !

I could go on , but BASC had 10 years of subs off me, and wont get any more, because ,as Sikamalc say , they dont represent ordinary shooters, they just like their money.
 
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if I’m honest if you don’t support them don’t bleat when further restrictions are imposed for legitimate firearms and sporting activities
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BASC have helped with restrictions being imposed on us its there doing that has led to the medical requirements on our licence and now the lead fiasco they and others signed us all up for a voluntary five year ban and the game dealers have now made it two years. I do understand that this was coming but for some of our shooting organisations to led the way on this without consulting the members that they represent is unbelievable.
 
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loads of different ideas and views, right now shooting in any form is under attack from many quarters, if there was ever a time to join together and have a united front that time is now

Being split makes the job a lot easier for the anti brigade and new unfounded legislation to be installed, i dont need the basc or any other institutional depts but I recognise we need to be together on this - it never going to get any better

come on We as in all of us need to stand up and be counted, I could quite easily say I’m alright jack, but we all know the writing is on the wall against shooting and i for one don’t want to give up anything else. - time to put any gripes or pride on the back burner and put up a fight. Shooting needs consolidated efforts by everyone
This ain’t the right time to sit on your laurels and say it’ll be ok I’m alright
 
To me its not worth it, I don't think they are proactive, they seem afraid to rock the boat or upset anyone. They decide what the membeship want not the other way round. Are the other orgs any better, possibly not, but neither are as vocal in how much they alledgedly achieve or as expensive.
I'll cite the lack of fight regarding the medical extortion , and the so called license reform which wasn't even a concept. Sadly the voice of shooting is nothing more than hot air and most constabularies treat them as such.
 
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