.410 reloading

There is a chap on eBay who sells a 410 kit for the Lee Load All.


demo here



looking at it, you could probably just use an arbor press.
 
There is a chap on eBay who sells a 410 kit for the Lee Load All.


demo here



looking at it, you could probably just use an arbor press.

Thanks.

Will see how the hand tooling goes first, will not be loading hundreds at a time as I do rife or pistol rounds so hand tools may be adequate with the roll crimper on the pillar drill.
 
Marlin 444 cases.
Might need to trim.

Or .303 cases with a bit of fire forming.
K.
.444 marlin cases are probably quite hard to get hold of?

I have been saving cases from my last couple slabs so have plenty to play with.

Added a .303 at renewal so me bring me I’ll probably have a play with those at some point!
 
.444 marlin cases are probably quite hard to get hold of?

I have been saving cases from my last couple slabs so have plenty to play with.

Added a .303 at renewal so me bring me I’ll probably have a play with those at some point!
I understand that there are other cases that can be used too but they usually involve fire forming first. A friend cadged some 8x57jrs cases off me to form .410 cases, these tend to be a little on the short side apparently.
I've also seen videos of 9.3x74r cases being used but these would be rather expensive to come by normally and there's no way am I going to give him any of my stash of 9.3 cases.
 
I understand that there are other cases that can be used too but they usually involve fire forming first. A friend cadged some 8x57jrs cases off me to form .410 cases, these tend to be a little on the short side apparently.
I've also seen videos of 9.3x74r cases being used but these would be rather expensive to come by normally and there's no way am I going to give him any of my stash of 9.3 cases.
I'm not averse to fireforming, as mentioned in other reloading posts I shoot an ackley, a k hornet and form .280 and 25-45 Sharps from other calibres and have done 6.5 creedmoor out of .243 and .308 . I'll probably have a play with .303 when I get one just because I will have the brass but in reality I have around 750 plastic .410 cases to play with. Average number used for an evening on the rats is 40-60 so if I manage 3 loads a pop that 750 will keep me going for some years!
 
410 cases tend to swell after a couple of firings. And there is nothing you can do about it. Eventually you struggle to chamber one and or get it back out again unfired!
 
Provided you have a conditioned FAC to purchase the LR primers if buying from an RFD , VCRA
Primers are not a controlled item as are full rounds of ammunition, they would not appear as an authority on an idividuals FAC or shotgun cert.
However, good reason to purchase is required in order for them to be supplied.
Shotgun cert in conjuction with a valid reason such as in this case would be sufficient.
 
Rifle and pistol primers are controlled under the Violent Crime reduction Act of 2006 section 35 to buy the purchaser must have an FAC conditioned to need them ie for LR a .308 or SR a .223 etc.


Shotgun certificate is not good reason to buy metallic cartridge primers.

edited to add ignorance of the law is no excuse, up to 6 months in prison and or a heavy fine, loss of RFD, FAC SGC cert also. If you are in this industry you really should know the laws that apply, even more fun is looking at the RIF and IF laws. Realistic Imitation Firearms and Imitation Firearms and these are toys.
 
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Rifle and pistol primers are controlled under the Violent Crime reduction Act of 2006 section 35 to buy the purchaser must have an FAC conditioned to need them ie for LR a .308 or SR a .223 etc.


Shotgun certificate is not good reason to buy metallic cartridge primers.

edited to add ignorance of the law is no excuse, up to 6 months in prison and or a heavy fine, loss of RFD, FAC SGC cert also. If you are in this industry you really should know the laws that apply, even more fun is looking at the RIF and IF laws. Realistic Imitation Firearms and Imitation Firearms and these are toys.
Let’s not let this become a dick swinging contest!

I would suggest that West Coast Sports understands the law, and everything else is semantics.

Primers are not a controlled item in that you do not need an authority to posses, but the selling / purchasing of primers IS controlled and requires a valid and relevant ticket.

The argument of what is required to give authority is an argument that can only be tested in court, not on a forum. Another example is someone buying small pistol primers with no small pistol calibre on their certificate, to use in .22 hornet, this is commonplace.

I would suggest if someone is purchasing 50 .410 brass cases from our good fellow above, and produces a valid SGC with .410 on it, there’s no reason that they should not be sold LR primers to suit those cases. Which is what I think he / you / both are ultimately getting at.
 
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