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Actually I was quite interested in Foxyboy's tangent on magazines as it highlights the differences in law within the UK, and the ever increasing difficulty in understanding the myriad of legislation. I once offered to bring over some airgun pellets when visiting a colleague in the North but was told "no" as he thought these might need a firearm certificate to possess there. I wasn't sure but as he was the one applying for a FAC for an air rifle at the time we both thought it not wise to try just in case.

It's also been a bit of an Indiana Jones experience reading the thread as back in the day when the first legislation to restrict expanding "pistol" ammunition came in I did hear rumors of someone planning to make a .455" rifle to get that calibre taken off the list so good to read that it wasn't just a legend.

In terms of the .360" Rook yes it will chamber a .38" Special but it's not designed for it, many firearms/shotguns will chamber rounds their not designed for but it certainly doesn't make them safe to fire. The .360" is a heeled bullet of around .362-.367" so firing a .357" bullet down the bore isn't likely to give much in the way of accuracy, black powder will bump up most soft lead bullets but smokeless doesn't tend to. The .360" is a black powder round not designed for smokeless propellant. Yes the original .38" Special was very originally and briefly loaded with black powder but in modern terms it's loaded with smokeless so not really suitable for your rare and valuable rook rifle. Some people do have the put on FAC and shoot them with smokeless but you need to know what you're doing and I'm a purist, if it's a black powder round load and shoot it with black powder, it's a much more rewarding experience.

You can get into the weeds with this but in essence the legislation covers the chambering of the rifle not what it may or may not take. When the legislation was drawn up however they did consider this for the .360" and .380" cartridges and decided they were obsolete for rifles only and not for revolvers.
 
Your FLD authority sounds a bit dubious, as I have all the Rook Rifle calibres on my gunroom wall to compare (properly punch-fired & deactivated of course).
These are low pressure small calibre numbers, so the only RR candidate fat enough to match is the .360 No 5.
Given the figures, a standard .38 Special round is too long so will not fit.
Why not try this out with a dummy round as you've got the rifle?:)
.38 Special overall length is 39.4mm (CIP), .360 No. 5 is 34.8mm.
.38 Special @ 1500 bar Max , .360 No 5 @ 1000 bar Max.

Hmmm. Interesting thank you S.
I confirmed at the time that a 38 Special does indeed chamber in the Rook but would not risk firing it. Having said that there is quite a bit of metal around the breech!
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Actually I was quite interested in Foxyboy's tangent on magazines as it highlights the differences in law within the UK, and the ever increasing difficulty in understanding the myriad of legislation. I once offered to bring over some airgun pellets when visiting a colleague in the North but was told "no" as he thought these might need a firearm certificate to possess there. I wasn't sure but as he was the one applying for a FAC for an air rifle at the time we both thought it not wise to try just in case.

It's also been a bit of an Indiana Jones experience reading the thread as back in the day when the first legislation to restrict expanding "pistol" ammunition came in I did hear rumors of someone planning to make a .455" rifle to get that calibre taken off the list so good to read that it wasn't just a legend.

In terms of the .360" Rook yes it will chamber a .38" Special but it's not designed for it, many firearms/shotguns will chamber rounds their not designed for but it certainly doesn't make them safe to fire. The .360" is a heeled bullet of around .362-.367" so firing a .357" bullet down the bore isn't likely to give much in the way of accuracy, black powder will bump up most soft lead bullets but smokeless doesn't tend to. The .360" is a black powder round not designed for smokeless propellant. Yes the original .38" Special was very originally and briefly loaded with black powder but in modern terms it's loaded with smokeless so not really suitable for your rare and valuable rook rifle. Some people do have the put on FAC and shoot them with smokeless but you need to know what you're doing and I'm a purist, if it's a black powder round load and shoot it with black powder, it's a much more rewarding experience.

You can get into the weeds with this but in essence the legislation covers the chambering of the rifle not what it may or may not take. When the legislation was drawn up however they did consider this for the .360" and .380" cartridges and decided they were obsolete for rifles only and not for revolvers.
Only one of many differences - apart from the obvious one that we still have pistols and a very healthy club scene. For example all air guns - rifle or pistol are treated as fully fledged firearms as are shotguns and both are held on the same FAC as all rifles snd pistols - from what I read that may well be coming your way…. Air pistols may only be used in approved clubs and it is only very recently that purchasing ammo for same was taken off FAC.
Then there is the nonsensical difference of no lower age limit to shoot c/f pistol or rifle (assuming supervision etc.).
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As I recall .360 No 5 was on the s58 list but now, isn't, so anything that is in .360 No 5 is now no longer on s58 but s1. BUT I MAY BE WRONG!

This is March 2021:

I think this is definitely still in the Schedule of S58 obsolete calibres, but referred to as the .360 Long Rifle (Rook).
The one I have is headstamped ELEY .360 No 5, and was loaded with cordite.
Better link to this below with an English translation. These calibres aren't very interesting.
I really don't know for sure which is which if there's nothing on the rifle.:rolleyes:
 
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