Lynx reintroduction workshop Dunfries and Galloway

[Tulloch]

 

[Reloader708]

Ive booked a spot for this Friday, should be interesting.

 

[Tazz]

Ive booked a spot for this Friday, should be interesting.

Will you get issued with one?

 

[KimE]

I had Lynx tracks around my shed last year I guess it smelled the Capercallies I had inside.

 

[Reloader708]

Informative evening! They even threw in some tea and biscuits.
There was some open discussion at the end with some fairly outrageous comments but there you go.
Hope she managed to get some meaningful data.
And no Tazz, I didn't come home with one in a sack.

 

[Bavarianbrit]

In the Bayrisches Wald south of Regensburg they are reckoned to need a diet of 50 roe per year per lynx.

 

[Reloader708]

In the Bayrisches Wald south of Regensburg they are reckoned to need a diet of 50 roe per year per lynx.

Aye that's about right, but apparently they'll be happy to substitute say a roe deer one week for 10 pheasants or two lambs or whatever else is about. There was even badgers on their list of edible delights!

 

[User00040]

Aye that's about right, but apparently they'll be happy to substitute say a roe deer one week for 10 pheasants or two lambs or whatever else is about. There was even badgers on their list of edible delights!

What about protected birds and Scottish Wildcats?

 

[Reloader708]

What about protected birds and Scottish Wildcats?

Aye, they'll eat those too!

 

[Smelly Yeti]

Convenient that they chose to hold both their workshops in the Borders considering that the main areas that have been discussed for potential reintroduction are the Highlands, Cairngorms & Argyll? Easier to get the responses you want if you geographically exclude attendance by potential opposition stakeholders? The Borders are far easier to get to from Kielder though

 

[KimE]

136 sheeps and goats were attacked in Sweden by lynx in 2022, 13 dogs attacked only one died. But its fun to hunt them we use tracking or bailing dogs to hunt them, Lynx will often get up in a tree on a rock to escape the dog.

 

[User00040]

136 sheeps and goats were attacked in Sweden by lynx in 2022, 13 dogs attacked only one died. But its fun to hunt them we use tracking or bailing dogs to hunt them, Lynx will often get up in a tree on a rock to escape the dog.

What's the rules around shooting them?

 

[KimE]

The hunting beguinn 1 march to april 15, 200 animals could be shot this year , no Lynx hunting allowed this year in the north were I live now. A rifle with minimum cal. 222r or a shotgun can be used , One or two tracking or bailing dogs , no motor vehicles are allowed. The most common types of hunting are you search for tracks and then you finds them you make a cirkle without tracks out of it. Get shooters around it and release the dog. You can also release a dog on a track without having shooters just try to get it up in a tree and shoot it there.

 

[.25-06]

In the Bayrisches Wald south of Regensburg they are reckoned to need a diet of 50 roe per year per lynx.

That sounds a good number of roe. The data I seen quoted only had 15 roe per year and they like their neighbour to be 20km away, that seemed at odds with the reintroduction reasons of controlling the roe deer

 

[KimE]

15 roes and 35 sheeps will do. In northern Sweden they take out most of the small local roe population and and then move on to find easy game in an other area.

 

[countrryboy]

Convenient that they chose to hold both their workshops in the Borders considering that the main areas that have been discussed for potential reintroduction are the Highlands, Cairngorms & Argyll? Easier to get the responses you want if you geographically exclude attendance by potential opposition stakeholders? The Borders are far easier to get to from Kielder though

To be fair to the lass she makes it very clear she is not linked with any lynx groups, just a lass wanting info for a post grad study thing.
Someone did ask her opinion but I think she sidestepped it, she definitely never came across overly in favour of them.

I went 1 nite and it was quite interesting, allthou how many of the studies would really relate to uk situation is doubtful.

2 of the main preventive management techniques, fencing ( UK already forest and Hill grazing already fenced, and guard dogs with flocks, legalities of leaving dogs with flicks on there own and how those dogs would react to Joe public walking there dog nearby, plus in hill flocks will be spread out over massive areas, how many dogs would it take.)

Must admit on the nite i was there quite surprised how anti the room was, at start of nite about 4 out of 20 for them by end of nite just 2, but the type it wouldn't matter wot was said would still be for them.

Was a sheep farmer there who has been involved in fighting the kielder release, he reckons in Norway they actually go into sheds and kill the sheep in the sheds.
If that can be proven to be true no way should they be considered to be released here.

For the record personally not actually against them being released as long as well monitored, any sheep losses are paid up with little argument and if not working they have it in writing the will cull/catch them.
Will never get conservation bods to agree to it thou.

And also ignoring the massive money it would cost when so many other species will likely go extinct in next 19, w0 or 30 years, wild cat and caper even waders, and even I reckon red squirrels will be gone in next 20 to 30 yrs

 

[JTO]

Another species for someone's bucket list?

 

[homer]

To be fair to the lass she makes it very clear she is not linked with any lynx groups, just a lass wanting info for a post grad study thing.
Someone did ask her opinion but I think she sidestepped it, she definitely never came across overly in favour of them.

I went 1 nite and it was quite interesting, allthou how many of the studies would really relate to uk situation is doubtful.

2 of the main preventive management techniques, fencing ( UK already forest and Hill grazing already fenced, and guard dogs with flocks, legalities of leaving dogs with flicks on there own and how those dogs would react to Joe public walking there dog nearby, plus in hill flocks will be spread out over massive areas, how many dogs would it take.)

Must admit on the nite i was there quite surprised how anti the room was, at start of nite about 4 out of 20 for them by end of nite just 2, but the type it wouldn't matter wot was said would still be for them.

Was a sheep farmer there who has been involved in fighting the kielder release, he reckons in Norway they actually go into sheds and kill the sheep in the sheds.
If that can be proven to be true no way should they be considered to be released here.

For the record personally not actually against them being released as long as well monitored, any sheep losses are paid up with little argument and if not working they have it in writing the will cull/catch them.
Will never get conservation bods to agree to it thou.

And also ignoring the massive money it would cost when so many other species will likely go extinct in next 19, w0 or 30 years, wild cat and caper even waders, and even I reckon red squirrels will be gone in next 20 to 30 yrs

Yes, lets spend our time and money trying to save what endangered species we have. Not waste it on the reintroduction of another predator. Out countryside is over run with predators, most of which are protected!

 

[Loler UK]

Aye that's about right, but apparently they'll be happy to substitute say a roe deer one week for 10 pheasants or two lambs or whatever else is about. There was even badgers on their list of edible delights!

I highly doubt a lynx would kill an adult badger. Cubs maybe, eat a dead one sure. I'd guess they'd not kill many red deer either?

 

[User00036]

After googling I never realised in UK the Lynx was extinct for hundreds of years, I always thought there was a few around until recently. Just goes to show what I know. Got to say what an impressive beautiful animal!