ireland banning some duck species from shooting ???
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Bringing them into line with the rest of us and adding pintail ( which we will have to face up to the fact they aint doing well ) Strange bit is lack of pollution in our estuaries might very well be blamed for pintail decline. Wigeon aint got long if their numbers dont get back after Bird flu we lost a lot on the Bay and the War in Ukraine isnt going to help things .
Needs to be a plan beyond protecting them because that one never really helps with the core issues
Can some one tell me why mandarin duck are no on the list of species that can be shot.
The Welsh Dee was thick with pintail right until it got cleaner . It is actually a problem at their summer roosts now with Wigeon and Pintail because they just aint comming back to us . Teal where in good numbers here at home but i havent had shootable numbers for at least 7-8 years . There are some big grass fields near the head of the Ribble that flood in Winter and its good grazing for sheep in summer , numbers are well down. Meanwhile Pinks are up a lot all over Lancashire but spread out more . Like i say its not shooting them that's created this but we shouldn't carry on when numbers are too low either
None native invasive ? TBF i wouldn't shoot one and wasnt aware i could but things like this can be a Local thing only so check very carefully as the rules say " All birds are protected in law except those that can be shot in a certain season or on licence "
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Foxyboy43
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From the ground and the air. Seems reasonable given our history of gunning them down
Worrying, in so much that the various UK governments will be taking interest in this.
the biggest problem we have is short stopping, europe no longer gets regular hard winters so there is no reason for the birds to cross the North Sea to avoid snow and ice. Our bird assemblages are changing, even the wild mallard are not crossing the North Sea in anything like the numbers they used to. I work in Norway an the coast line is black with mallard and some wigeon mid and late winter, no doubt birds which historically would have migrated to us.
the biggest problem we have is short stopping, europe no longer gets regular hard winters so there is no reason for the birds to cross the North Sea to avoid snow and ice. Our bird assemblages are changing, even the wild mallard are not crossing the North Sea in anything like the numbers they used to. I work in Norway an the coast line is black with mallard and some wigeon mid and late winter, no doubt birds which historically would have migrated to us.
Scaup can be shot in N.I. but not in the rest of U.K. Few Goldeneye and Pochard seem to be shot in practice - after Chernobyl one club which shoots on the Ouse Washes and elsewhere were asked for specimens but none could be produced.
Pintail are a bigger worry. They seem to to come and go on estuaries for no clear reason. There must be a case for bag limits on migratory species (= "adaptive harvest management " ) rather than the present system of free for all on migratory waterfowl species followed potentially by a total ban.
Pintail are a bigger worry. They seem to to come and go on estuaries for no clear reason. There must be a case for bag limits on migratory species (= "adaptive harvest management " ) rather than the present system of free for all on migratory waterfowl species followed potentially by a total ban.
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