Sold: Schmidt & Bender 8x56
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I am looking for another S&B scope and have a question.
S&B are a great company producing some fantastic optics, in fact the best hunting optics I have ever had the pleasure to use. The 8x56 Klassic made in Hungary though is their most basic model. I looked at a S&B 8x56 Klassic a month ago with a view to buy it and though the image was bright, focus was perfect, image clarity was spot on, I did not see any method of parallax correction. The S&B site only says the Hungarian 8x56 "Klassic" is set up in the factory to zero parallax at 100m.
Is there any form of parallax correction on this scope? Did I miss something? If not, could you advise the maximum parallax error on the one you are selling at 25m and 100m?
The reason I am asking is the one I examined had no parallax at 100m, but it was 4 inches out at 25m with one's head going from full up to full down or full left to full right. At the moment I still do not know whether this fixed parallax for 100m is a feature of this scope or if I was looking at a faulty scope or if they are all like that. As I mentioned everything else about it was perfect. I emailed this question to S&B UK a month ago (twice) and asked about service cost if I bought it and then got a service to get the parallax error fixed, but no reply.
If your scope does not have this parallax problem I would be interested in it.
S&B are a great company producing some fantastic optics, in fact the best hunting optics I have ever had the pleasure to use. The 8x56 Klassic made in Hungary though is their most basic model. I looked at a S&B 8x56 Klassic a month ago with a view to buy it and though the image was bright, focus was perfect, image clarity was spot on, I did not see any method of parallax correction. The S&B site only says the Hungarian 8x56 "Klassic" is set up in the factory to zero parallax at 100m.
Is there any form of parallax correction on this scope? Did I miss something? If not, could you advise the maximum parallax error on the one you are selling at 25m and 100m?
The reason I am asking is the one I examined had no parallax at 100m, but it was 4 inches out at 25m with one's head going from full up to full down or full left to full right. At the moment I still do not know whether this fixed parallax for 100m is a feature of this scope or if I was looking at a faulty scope or if they are all like that. As I mentioned everything else about it was perfect. I emailed this question to S&B UK a month ago (twice) and asked about service cost if I bought it and then got a service to get the parallax error fixed, but no reply.
If your scope does not have this parallax problem I would be interested in it.
I have an 8 x56 it's is fixed at 100m. I've never noticed any error at short range. Just point and shoot. It's a hunting scope not a target one, so parallax has little consideration as long as your cheek weld is consistent.
no problem with any of the range at all in that regards . mind you shooting a broadside red at 300 with any 243 win up isnt exactly challenging unless we have enviromntal challanges to overcome the target is pretty much 10-12"Not terribly familiar with the A7 reticle so may I ask if it would be suitable for 2-300 yard shots at Reds, please?
Much obliged.
In target shooting one has an adjustable cheek pad and time to get repeated head position, in hunting one does not have that luxury of time.
If when checking the zero I find a 4" error at any range I may wish to shoot a deer, I personally would decline to shoot a deer with that rifle. If shooting a rabbit with a smaller calibre I would miss 3 out of 4 head shots. Neither my cheap Chinese scope on my squirrel rifle nor March scopes has any noticeable variation in parallax with range. My question was simply is this a feature of the S&B 8x56 Klassic or was I looking at a faulty scope? If the latter then I am interested in buying one that is not faulty because the S&B optical clarity is really fantastic.
Thanks, Chris
Just learn to get a repeatable head position in a hunting situation like the rest of us, or spend more money and buy a scope with px adjustment!
kennyc
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S&B 8x56 scopes were for years the go to scopes for stalkers, if they had a parralax problem I would suggest we would all know about it! , I have for years used a 6x42 S&B which is a superb woodland scope with outstanding light gathering ability, a couple of years ago I changed it for a 8x56 for a bit more mag,again rock solid and good light gathering, and just last week I finally succumbed to curiosity and bought a variable, again for more mag for specific conditions, parralax has never been an issue, it comes into its own with rimfires/airrifles at short range and night vision where depth of field restrictions make a parralax turret a boon to allow sharp focus, besides as 25 Sharps pointed out, a repeatable stable head position is a fundamental part of marksmanship, and all the adjustment in the world wont compensate for poor technique.
Thanks for your recommendation KennyC and asking the question.
The one I looked at must just have been an anomaly. I have used S&B for decades (but never the Klassic model).
The one left here seems to be 25mm, so I have put in an offer for another one that is 30mm after your comment, and just got a message that it is accepted.
Alex
The one I looked at must just have been an anomaly. I have used S&B for decades (but never the Klassic model).
The one left here seems to be 25mm, so I have put in an offer for another one that is 30mm after your comment, and just got a message that it is accepted.
Alex
kennyc
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as far as I am aware the main advantage of the 30mm tubes over the 1" is the extra elevation and windage adjustment, light gathering is exactly the same, I am sure you will be pleased with the new scope.
MAH
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Hi Alex.
From an engineering point of view you maybe correct. That doesn't mean the scope is faulty..
From a stalking point of view its a perfect scope.
The 8x56 are specifically designed as stalking scope, where most shots are taken ar 50 to 150yrds.
If I was woodland stalking, and came across a deer at 25 yards, I'd be delighted if I could run the following checks through my brain it time
Backstop?
ID season ok?
Shot placement, wound chanel ok?
Backstop ok?
Squeeze....
Bang...
If I paused, to adjust parallax, or any other scope gizmo, it would be off, never to be seen again.
As others have said, if you have a good/ repeatable technique to mount your rifle, then parallax will be a very small part of the overall error in such a situation.
At the other end of the scale, if your target shooting with an air rifle, it's not the right scope.
M
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