Deer fence with deer within England query

GNU

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Deer fenced, forestry area (planted woodland not for “harvesting”) in England. Would I be right in thinking under section 7 of the deer act, it’s permissible to shoot out of season deer within?
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Link to section 7, below:
You also need to read subsection (1) of section 2 to get the context.
(Not subsection (2) of section 2. That relates only to farmed deer).
Link to section 2, below:
 
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Sticking my head above the parapet - I'd say no -, it's not commercial therefore you have no property being damaged as per section 7, 3, A (thanks @VSS ). I would expect the wording would have to be for protecting natural heritage
 
Sticking my head above the parapet - I'd say no -, it's not commercial therefore you have no property being damaged as per section 7, 3, A (thanks @VSS ). I would expect the wording would have to be for protecting natural heritage
It’s a charity concern, £ does change hands so possibly could fall into the commercial. Fook knows, it’s a grey area to me.
 
Link to section 7, below:
You also need to read subsection (1) of section 2 to get the context.
(Not subsection (2) of section 2. That relates only to farmed deer).
Link to section 2, below:
I would agree but it’s all legal guff which I don’t fully understand 😂 👍🏻
 
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I would agree but it’s all legal guff which I don’t fully understand 😂 👍🏻
Ok, to put it in English:
If the woodland is enclosed,
If damage is being caused by deer,
If the deer you intend to shoot are the deer which are causing the damage,
If shooting the deer would prevent further damage,
If you have the right to shoot deer on that land,
Crack on.
 
Ok, to put it in English:
If the woodland is enclosed,
If damage is being caused by deer,
If the deer you intend to shoot are the deer which are causing the damage,
If shooting the deer would prevent further damage,
If you have the right to shoot deer on that land,
Crack on.
Nope, the key thing in this instance is that the trees are not for harvesting therefore not a crop so there is no damage to the harvest, it's just natural processes going on.
 
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It’s a charity concern, £ does change hands so possibly could fall into the commercial. Fook knows, it’s a grey area to me.
I wouldn't have to explain this to a judge!! but from my point of view is I would happy for you to make some case law to clarify the situation! :lol:
 
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Nope, the key thing in this instance is that the trees are not for harvesting therefore not a crop so there is no damage to the harvest, it's just natural processes going on.
There is nothing in section 7 that implies that it has to be commercial woodland.
Read it for yourself. I posted a link a few posts back.
The key thing is that the woodland is enclosed.
 
Ok, to put it in English:
If the woodland is enclosed,
If damage is being caused by deer,
If the deer you intend to shoot are the deer which are causing the damage,
If shooting the deer would prevent further damage,
If you have the right to shoot deer on that land,
Crack on.
Top banana. Cheers. What if the fence is porous in places regarding deer ingress as I think is the case. Is it still classified as an enclosure? Presumably repairs would need to be carried out prior to in order to comply or is it still classed as a deer fence if not? Your input is much appreciated. Cheers
 
Top banana. Cheers. What if the fence is porous in places regarding deer ingress as I think is the case. Is it still classified as an enclosure? Presumably repairs would need to be carried out prior to in order to comply or is it still classed as a deer fence if not? Your input is much appreciated. Cheers
I believe it would still classify as enclosed.
 
I'm back in the house now, so looked this up in "Deer: Law & Liabilities" by Parkes and Thornley, the go-to resource for queries of this nature.
I quote from their interpretation of the relevant part of section 7:
"The term 'growing timber' implies any form of woodland or forestry, be it wild, managed or commercial."
 
The OP describes the existing deer fence as "porous" 🤣

But, also on a tangent, for it to classify as "enclosed" as per the law, it need not be deer fenced. An ordinary stock fence, or even a drystone wall, would suffice.
Cheers, much appreciated.
 
I look after a few plantations that meet this exact description privately owned mixed species.
If grants have been issued there maybe conditions attached that deer, rabbits and hares are to be kept out of the enclosed land so I would say yes that includes out of season.
In your situation I'd walk and repair fence line then completely clear the plantation but I do know for a fact some Roe and Sika can jump deer fences at leasure and yearling Roe will squeeze through badger runs through fence so it's a never ending task.
 
Cheers, that’s my intention at this moment in time. Paying 1st visit next week so I’ll know properly what’s what then. 👍🏻
 
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