Steel is now to be tariffed into the EU.

[Bavarianbrit]

When the United Kingdom voted to leave the European Union in 2016, the seaside town of Port Talbot in Wales eagerly went along with the move. Brexit was approved by some 57 percent of the town's residents.
Turkeys voting for Christmas? Schadenfreude? I suppose so.

 

[tackb]

if we had a government then 1/2 a million charge to each foreign fishing vessel in our waters and a 50% tarriff on foreign cars should be a good start to nip this vicious nonsense in the bud

but we don't have a government............

 

[Hook'N'Bullet]

if we had a government then 1/2 a million charge to each foreign fishing vessel in our waters and a 50% tarriff on foreign cars should be a good start to nip this vicious nonsense in the bud

but we don't have a government............

Don't think that's how tarrifs work. It'd be the UK that would have to pay for example Germany if they want to import BMWs. In reality, the tariff will just be passed onto the consumer meaning car prices will sky rocket.

 

[Bavarianbrit]

if we had a government then 1/2 a million charge to each foreign fishing vessel in our waters and a 50% tarriff on foreign cars should be a good start to nip this vicious nonsense in the bud

but we don't have a government............

All LR Defenders are now built in Slovakia so does that also count? A very complex issues.

 

[tackb]

All LR Defenders are now built in Slovakia so does that also count? A very complex issues.

great , we can import the much better toyota landcruiser 79 series

and it's not complex , it's basic business

frankly we should never have moved production to slovakia

 

[tackb]

Don't think that's how tarrifs work. It'd be the UK that would have to pay for example Germany if they want to import BMWs. In reality, the tariff will just be passed onto the consumer meaning car prices will sky rocket.

which would make BMW's too expensive and their sales would plummet (we are a big market for them) they would in turn put pressure on their government to lift the tarriffs ?

 

[Bavarianbrit]

Dover was a majority % vote to leave the EU too even though so many locals still work on the ferries.

 

[tackb]

Dover was a majority % vote to leave the EU too even though so many locals still work on the ferries.

whats that got to do with anything ? in or out of the EU we still need ferries on an island !

 

[Bavarianbrit]

whats that got to do with anything ? in or out of the EU we still need ferries on an island !

True but you can see France from here so not it is much further than Canterbury away from Dover but the locals seem to dislike Johnny foreigner. Strange closed up world it seems to me, but as long as the Brexiteer voters can still fly cheaply to their drinking holiday to Benidorm all is well with the world. Sarcasm BTW.

 

[Hook'N'Bullet]

which would make BMW's too expensive and their sales would plummet (we are a big market for them) they would in turn put pressure on their government to lift the tarriffs ?

But you suggested imposing tarrifs on importing. The UK gov is the one putting the tariffs on them. It's a way of your Gov scalping its own citizens on their wants to generate revenue.

You can buy the import if you want, but we're gonna get a slice

 

[tackb]

But you suggested imposing tarrifs on importing. The UK gov is the one putting the tariffs on them. It's a way of your Gov scalping its own citizens on their wants to generate revenue.

You can buy the import if you want, but we're gonna get a slice

well the eu is doing it with tarriffs on us

 

[Hook'N'Bullet]

well the eu is doing it with tarriffs on us

Yes, on imported goods from the UK to EU. That's what happens when you import goods from outside the trade bloc. Same as if you were to buy from the states.....you have it mixed up

 

[tackb]

Yes, on imported goods from the UK to EU. That's what happens when you import goods from outside the trade bloc. Same as if you were to buy from the states.....you have it mixed up

pretty sure i don't but hey ho

they tariff us we tariff them , they drop the tariffs we drop the tariffs

 

[Hook'N'Bullet]

pretty sure i don't but hey ho

they tariff us we tariff them , they drop the tariffs we drop the tariffs

Ah I see what you're getting at. Playing them at their own game.

 

[markyw]

Of course, we could have just stayed in the EU......

Is there not a big enough market in the UK to soak up local steel production? I feel we may import steel if it is cheaper, rather than use home produced, much like we did with coal which led to the miners' strikes and ultimately the closure of many pits back in the day.

Edit: just looked through a few figures and both steel production and demand are down, it seems. Rather than tariff, maybe the Government should subsidise UK made steel for the local market - might sell more and so have to produce more. win-win.

Regards

Mark

 

[finnbear270]

Tariff french plonk.

 

[udderlyoffroad]

All LR Defenders are now built in Slovakia so does that also count? A very complex issues.

To avoid EU tariffs!

The EU is, and always was, massively in favour of protectionist tariffs.

Then unelected commissionaires have the neck to try to lecture Trumpy about introducing tariffs but that's another story...

And to describe the EU as a trading bloc is a bit like describing Harold Shipman as a family GP. Missing out the important part

 

[Apthorpe]

Of course, we could have just stayed in the EU......

Is there not a big enough market in the UK to soak up local steel production? I feel we may import steel if it is cheaper, rather than use home produced, much like we did with coal which led to the miners' strikes and ultimately the closure of many pits back in the day.

Edit: just looked through a few figures and both steel production and demand are down, it seems. Rather than tariff, maybe the Government should subsidise UK made steel for the local market - might sell more and so have to produce more. win-win.

Regards

Mark

The government ought to be using a lot more steel in infrastructure - new roads, bridges, strategic stockpiling, factory space, on rearming, shipping and on building landing craft to land illegal immigrants on French beaches. It's pathetic that successive government have left the country almost entirely defenceless, severely lacking in roads, ports, navy, real energy infrastructure and industrial capacity. One of the reasons we habe a basket case economy is that governments have been stripping investment out of the economy to dole out to unproductive workers and for welfare.

Sadly the Foreign Office continues in its delusion of thinking that diplomacy consists solely of damaging the national interest in exchange for a personal feeling of smugness and a good dinner.

 

[finbar]

We didn’t import coal we mined it but was expensive due to the fact the rest of Europe subsidised there coal industry..
we had the safest best coal in Europe if not the world
The coal industry was put to sword by thatcher
Now a dirty word but it built this country to what it is now or was

 

[Polar Lynx]

Judas Trump imposes tariffs because the US is overconsuming. China strikes back and don't buy US soybeans and Trump will have to support US farmers with money from the tariffs. China can't export much steel to the US so dumps excess steel into Europe (EU). Steel mills in the EU will have close or... tariffs are imposed on all foreign steel imports. UK is nowdays 'foreign' to Europe/EU and UK government there may have to subsidize production i.e. UK tax payers will indirectly have to foot the bill Trump once imposed.
This is how trade start. All parties are losers.