Paedophile Ian Watkins murdered in prison.

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Stalker62 said:
I just think the site is richer without such threads?

My revulsion for this man's crimes, and for the (apparent) circumstances of his death, are no less felt than those who feel the need to demonstrate it by posting their revulsion on the internet.

I hope you can understand (if not agree) with the dichotomy.
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I agree, and disagree in equal measure. Watkins' crimes were an abomination, and absolutely unforgivable. Many reasonable and decent folk feel that mere removal of his liberty falls far short of true retribution for what he (and his female accomplices) were responsible for. His death, and the manner of it shouldn't of course be a matter of entertainment, but I personally think it's a valid topic for discussion for all who feel imprisonment wasn't really sufficient punishment for the hideousness he revelled in
 
Rake Aboot said:
I made the grave mistake of reading the sentencing remarks for this case.
I wish I had not.
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Again, I offer my apologies. I really wish I'd kept that particular horror off the forum in the first place. I thought it might offer perspective, but in hindsight I was wrong.

For anyone who missed the post under discussion, I hope this offers some explanation. I've deleted the link to the official document though.

'I didn't know the document linked below existed until today, and I certainly can't say it's improved my day. It may serve to highlight just what a depraved and vile individual Watkins was, and just how prisoners such as him are despised and reviled, even by some of the worst criminals in the country. Yes, perhaps it was a failure of the system that allowed this to happen, but I'm personally not sorry he's dead.

Warning. The comments and description in this official sentencing document are graphic and disturbing. I personally couldn't read the entire thing.'
 
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What the hell has a vile paedophile being murdered in prison got to do with stalking? I know it's a topic that brings out strong feelings and his end is likely justified. I also realise that some folk feel the need to vent their feelings and opinions on the subject.

But I peruse these pages to read about like minded people, learn a few things and enjoy reading about other's experiences, or perhaps look at what's for sale now and again and maybe see the odd joke. I also know there's an "off topic" section. But paedophilia? Come on...
 
Pedro said:
What the hell has a vile paedophile being murdered in prison got to do with stalking? I know it's a topic that brings out strong feelings and his end is likely justified. I also realise that some folk feel the need to vent their feelings and opinions on the subject.

But I peruse these pages to read about like minded people, learn a few things and enjoy reading about other's experiences, or perhaps look at what's for sale now and again and maybe see the odd joke. I also know there's an "off topic" section. But paedophilia? Come on...
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That’s not the subject of the thread.
 
Pedro said:
What the hell has a vile paedophile being murdered in prison got to do with stalking? I know it's a topic that brings out strong feelings and his end is likely justified. I also realise that some folk feel the need to vent their feelings and opinions on the subject.

But I peruse these pages to read about like minded people, learn a few things and enjoy reading about other's experiences, or perhaps look at what's for sale now and again and maybe see the odd joke. I also know there's an "off topic" section. But paedophilia? Come on...
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Then don't visit the off topic section, or at least don't open threads with headers that aren't exactly cryptic ?
 
I think that the fascination people have for cases like this, and feeling the need to share the story beyond the normal news channels where you would expect it to be found, is in itself an insidious perversion, and makes me feel very uncomfortable.
I would think far more highly of the good character of my fellow stalkers if stuff like this didn't end up on here.
 
VSS said:
I think that the fascination people have for cases like this, and feeling the need to share the story beyond the normal news channels where you would expect it to be found, is in itself an insidious perversion, and makes me feel very uncomfortable.
I would think far more highly of the good character of my fellow stalkers if stuff like this didn't end up on here.
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The site of "Rettendon Murders" has lots of visitors especially around the date of the event, Peter and I would walk past them off foxing when he ran his small shoot!
 
It's an off topic section, to allow folk to discuss stuff non stalking related. Nobody has to enter a thread.
Perhaps some feel that all threads should be censored by admin prior to posting, in order to maintain a certain standard ?
 
Malxwal said:
It's an off topic section, to allow folk to discuss stuff non stalking related. Nobody has to enter a thread.
Perhaps some feel that all threads should be censored by admin prior to posting, in order to maintain a certain standard ?
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Not at all. Nobody wants excessive censorship.
But I would expect individuals of good character to exercise their own restraint, and think carefully about how they, and the wider SD community, might be perceived, before posting stuff.
 
VSS said:
I think that the fascination people have for cases like this, and feeling the need to share the story beyond the normal news channels where you would expect it to be found, is in itself an insidious perversion, and makes me feel very uncomfortable.
I would think far more highly of the good character of my fellow stalkers if stuff like this didn't end up on here.
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That almost questions the integrity of those who would stand up and demonstrate their outrage at the sheer depravity of this vile individual. Sure, you may personally find it distasteful as a topic, but you shouldn't presume to dictate what anyone else sees appropriate for discussion
 
I really can't see what the problem is, The OP has put a thread up in the Off Topic regarding some vile person being killed in prison and some people are getting annoyed about it.
Paedophiles have been discussed on here before Huw Edwards and Jimmy Saville to name a couple so why is it such an issue this time and why are people making a big deal about the OP.
There was a time on SD when Politics was probably one of the most discussed topics yet had nothing at all to do with stalking and shooting but it had a huge following and got that heated it had to be moved.
This story has also been covered on the radio for millions of people across the country to hear including children so why is it such an issue on here, It appears certain people on SD want censorship to only discuss things that suit there own narrative and sod everyone else
 
That b.....d doesn't even deserve a mention, but the Op has a right to post his views. The perpetrator had no rights to remain in this world so (even though the authorities need to up their management) I am glad he ended up dead.
 
VSS said:
I think that the fascination people have for cases like this, and feeling the need to share the story beyond the normal news channels where you would expect it to be found, is in itself an insidious perversion, and makes me feel very uncomfortable.
I would think far more highly of the good character of my fellow stalkers if stuff like this didn't end up on here.
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Quite agree, but also aware that we've both been reading it so.....
 
The music he made was a big part of my teen years. Loved the band. Loved the music. Refused to listen to it from the moment I heard what he did.

His death has me feeling a little melancholy - did he deserve to die? Probably not. What was he was convicted of doing horrendous- yes it was. Is the world a slightly better place without someone of that persuasion - quite possibly.

I've missed the music he made - and it's a great shame that his band mates hard work is now not being heard. They probably worked a lot hard to create it than he ever did. Does this now mean I can listen to some of my favourite songs again now without feeling like I'm supporting a nonce?
 
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