Man who converted staple gun into firearm jailed
Jamie Young, from Longfield near Dartford, filmed himself testing the fire power of the weapon in a field.
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man who converted staple gun to real gun gets five years, as he should do,
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Bo Diddley
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Petty drug dealer trying to intimidate other petty drug dealers when they come to rob him, or he tries to rob them... what has this country become... build more prisons, with one-way doors.
shakey jake
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or legalise drugs,war on drugs costs money and is failing year on year, let boots sell drugs to people that want them.
that guy got what he deserved but its a small fish from the ocean
Essexsussex
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Imagine if that ingenuity was put to a constructive use.
'We're doing badly so let's just give up'
Nope. I am sick to the back teeth of the smell of weed from next door. In summer we often can't have our windows open because if it, being outside in nice weather is often tainted by the smell and occasionally it seems to come through the walls. Then there are the times, usually at least weekly, when I'm driving (+/- kids in the car) and some wazzock or other, often in a van is smoking and driving because it comes in through the vents. The last thing is want is those people and others being emboldened to do it more- it's antisocial and a risk to others. And that's just weed. There needs to be a culture change and it be cracked down on more.
shakey jake
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Yup, I agree entirely, sick fed up of it being stinking of weed when in the city centres - it almost always leads to other issues.
Where the money comes from to deal with it? How about the highest rates of tax in Europe that we pay? There would be plenty of funding to cover this of it wasn’t wasted on numerous wastes of time such as DEI and persons who pay zero into the system receiving benefits.
I guess rapes, assaults and Murders cost a lot to investigate so I guess we should make those legal too?
Drug misuse are a huge contributor to the crime levels in all countries - when you prevent the flow and use of drugs you usually find crime rates dramatically drop right after that. The USA are building an extremely compelling case for this at the moment!
tackb
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or , make the penalty's even harder , crack down on use as well as distribution with serious punishments ?
giving into crime doesn't make for a better safer society
shakey jake
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rapes assults and murders affect other by there actions, drug use doesnt, drug dealers and gangs may well do, drug adicts might steal and rob to fund an addiction.
take away the crime of drug use, gangs wont have revenue.
is a teenager smoking weed any worse than drinking?
hasnt portugal decriminilised drug use and seen a drop in issues?
still not sure why an offensive smell should matter
It’s not just the smell, although personally I find it sickly & repulsive - if you are smelling it then you are inhaling, a bit like passive smoking.
Imagine then that you’ve had the windows open in the summer while next door have been puffing away outside, the smell hasn’t bothered you & you’ve been passively inhaling their smoke.
You decide you need to pop to the shops in the car & on the way some clown drives into your car. The old bill arrive & you get drug wiped…
Like WW I have a neighbour who likes a ‘little smoke’ of an evening & in the summer sits outside in their garden doing it. I have to shut the windows too. He’s a young bloke with a partner & young kiddie - he doesn’t care if the kid is there when he’s smoking. Several times he’s been on it all day when he’s not been working, you can hear him laughing & giggling like a loon & when his Mrs comes home from work all hell breaks loose!
And then after this all day session the following morning he hops into his car & drives to work!
My job involves driving & never a day goes by when I don’t get the distinctive smell of weed from a car I’m following in traffic or which has driven past.
The stuff is illegal, anyone using it is breaking the law. But what can be done about it? - bugger all when our constabularies seem more intent on arresting people for making non PC comments on social media than they do about tackling real crime!
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You really think drug misuse doesn’t lead to affects on others? I think most of us will have been, or know someone that has been robbed by a junkie trying to cover their next fix, sure that isn’t usually weed - but plenty have started on weed and moved onto the next drug.
Also, the surge in driving under the influence shows the absolute risk to other people, drunk driving has given way to drug driving now.
Ignoring it and allowing them to continue is not the way to go.
So having your wife/mother/child killed by a drug driver wouldn’t affect you then???
Bit of a diversion from OP, but … why not take the Portugal route… legalize all drugs and tax the living **** out of it? Gets rid of illegal suppliers which reduces violence, Turkish barber, vape shops, illegal immigrants etc etc, PLUS QC means that overdoses are less likely, PLUS mental health drug users can get the help they need, PLUS voluntary users can pick up the tab (sorry) as other drug users (alcohol, smokers) do…
No reason not to, except it will hurt illegals more than anyone and they are Sir Keimit Stalin (sorry ‘Starmer’) best friends (other than Ukrainians and his endless supply of rent boys)
No reason not to, except it will hurt illegals more than anyone and they are Sir Keimit Stalin (sorry ‘Starmer’) best friends (other than Ukrainians and his endless supply of rent boys)
shakey jake
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be about the same as drink driving, drug use and alcohol consumption arnt that different,
But your post specifically said drug use doesn’t affect you…
It's a mind altering substance, taken for that very reason, not just an offensive smell.
I just gave two examples whereas drug use does affect others. Drug driving puts others at risk and my children and I are being forcibly exposed to a controlled substance by virtue of our neighbours. It's antisocial.
Teenagers drinking aren't forcing it down someone else's throat. Smoking a drug and drinking are not comparable, although I also don't think teenagers should be drinking illegally anyway. There's published evidence of damage to cognition from weed smoking so teenagers smoking while brains are developing has deeper effects on both them as individuals and on society.
That's before you get into thinking about smoking being banned and proven harmful effects of it- I'll wager it's only a matter of time before similar stats are available for other smoked drugs such as weed for increased lung cancer risk and others, which again costs individuals, families and society. But the potentially impaired cognition of weed users would probably stop them figuring that out, or caring.
I guess you'll still find a way to trivialise any evidence that doesn't fit your prerogative though.
shakey jake
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the act of using the drug doesnt affect others, abuse of any drug(including alcohol) of course can affect others.
what the country is doing now to combat drugs is failing massivly, costs money we dont have and people still want to use drugs.
there will always be douche bags that drive drunk or high, but seems daft to punish all because of it.
selling drugs legally they could be taxed, of known strength and purity.
Bo Diddley
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I can't agree with you on the drug issue. Legalising it won't stop the illegal dealers, there is too much money to be made.
Small time drug dealers are everywhere, even in my sleepy Norfolk market town... people have been beaten to a pulp and left for dead, one lad Austin, spent seven weeks in hospital, he was lucky, we had a spate of young men committing suicide because of the "debt" they got into with what I can only assume was a county lines type situation.
I let a bungalow to a dope head, he was going to heal the world with CBD oil, always stoned, I also got completely fed up smelling weed day & night, I gave him the benefit of the doubt and thought I was doing a good thing... he bypassed the meter, never paid any water rates, minimum payments for council tax... he was and still is a completly deluded waster, and I've known a few dope heads. The only good thing is always paid the rent... I've been told he was scared of pi$$ing me off...
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