Any decent bullet from a 270 at anything but sub-standard muzzle velocities should enable a 300 yd shot.
Haven’t seen many Barnes bullets in action, first was from a colleagues 6.5 on a roe buck around 70yds, broadside, that went behind the shoulder and out the front of the chest. I was lucky to find the buck about an hour and a half later, 350 to 400yds before I finished it with a proper lead core bullet. I wasn’t sure if it was the same buck initially as it was laid up, head up behaving naturally.
First one he used on deer, and last.
Have seen others shot with various calibres, not that many, fortunately resulting in good kills
Not sure what point you are trying to make verses my point?
Is it that any lead cored jacketed .277 bullet should enable a 300 yard shot whereas the barnes in question did not? If so I agree, I would say the same with 6.5x55 firing a lead hunting bullet, especially when home loaded to its potential.
Are you trying to say that copper is not as good?
I’m not so sure, lead bullets fail, I once shot a rabbit at 90ish yards with a 35 gr v-max from my hornet. A very explosive combination normally, but this bullet failed to expand entirely, it stopped the rabbit but didn’t kill it, ordinarily a chest shot would basically cut the rabbit in half.
Copper needs to be driven fast, it’s simple as that, if it hits with enough speed it kills every bit as well as lead. As above, and if you search my post history, I was vehemently against copper bullets 5 years ago then I thought id try them, largely down to me feeding a lot of venison to my young family.
Pretty much all of my deer - munties, roe and fallow, are shot with copper. Yew tree in the 6.5 and .280 and barnes in the 25-45.
I don’t tend to push the barnes past 200 yards with the little necked up .223 as the rifle is putting out 1750 ft-lb and I have bigger guns for further. But I’ve shot roe with it out to 200 and runs have never been longer than with a lead bullet from the creedmoor, 6.5x55 or .308 with lead bullets. This surprised me with the Barnes as I was a bit dubious with their full weight retention, but proof is in the pudding!
The .280 with the 124 gr yew tree I will push to 350 yards with no worries, accuracy is very good and expansion decisive. I would push it further with confidence in the bullet, but I know my limits, when first shots have to count. (I can walk shots into and hold the V at Bisley at 1000 yards on a good day, would never try it on deer).
For me the 6.5x55 sits between the 2, this is because best accuracy in my rifle for the 112 or 114 gr bullets is around the 2900 fps mark. Expansion is there but not as emphatic as the .280 with the 124 gr, that isn’t down to the bullet, it’s down to the speed.
I’m playing with other powders, I can get the speeds well north of 3000 fps, but accuracy goes from all bullets through the same hole to an inch. Until I crack it, I don’t push the range on the x55, but if I can get the accuracy and speed at 3150 fps, I’d have no issue shooting it to the same ranges as the .280.
The 127 gr is too heavy for what the 6.5x55 or creedmoor is capable in terms of getting north of 3000 fps. Stick it in a 6.5-284 or PRC, stoke it up to 3150- 3200 fps and it will do what it says on the tin.
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