Well, the data shows it does work….
How else to solve?
Maybe up the strength then, let the problem solve itself …. Maybe smoking and drug derived illnesses should be excluded from NHS and benefits? Take the risk and pay the price??
man who converted staple gun to real gun gets five years, as he should do,
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Well, the data shows it does work….
How else to solve?
Maybe up the strength then, let the problem solve itself …. Maybe smoking and drug derived illnesses should be excluded from NHS and benefits? Take the risk and pay the price??
Bo Diddley
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Ban staple guns! Legalize drugs!
Bo Diddley
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Roofers have a habit of partaking in a bit of "Chop" for breakfast... they also have a habit of attaching a cable tie to the nose of the Paslode nail guns, pulling the nose in so it will fire 4" nails at each other... some of them even fire a nail through the foreskin just for $hites & Giggles... what's the world coming to 
Ok, I’ll rephrase - They don’t spend the funds high tax payers are subjected to at the moment efficiently. If they did they may have funds to better deal with substance abuse, and remember that earners north of the border pay a higher rate of tax than the rest of the U.K.
Instead of providing “safe areas” for junkies to shoot up, and gear to do this - they should be jailing them and dealing with the weed heads rather than just leaving them to it - by all means if you are in your own home, fine. But others having to deal with the stink and driving etc on it should be dealt with.
Well done for describing my response with an adjective. That doesn't equate to an argument against it. It is an emotive topic. The 'you're using hurty words' approach has zero clout.
They should remain illegal because they are misused and cause harm. Given people already smoke and drive, the problem will only get worse if controls are relaxed. Quite obvious really.
Fair that smoking still goes on as vaping, although there was a time before vapes were common where smoking was declining. Vaping is a disaster IMO.
Drink driving is definitely less than it was, and the idea of not drinking because you're driving is much more socially acceptable now.
Agree WRT Bliar.
shakey jake
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Wasn't it Pablo Escobar who said he'd pay off the national debt of Cuba (?) if the authorities left him to carry on unhindered?
And smoking and obesity and alcoholism????
They shouldn't have weed at all, yet have it and drive on it. That's different to and worse than misusing something you are allowed to have, although both are wrong. See also my previous point about there being a difference between someone drinking near you and someone smoking near you. One you're not being forced to either inhale or stop what you're doing and go elsewhere to avoid it.
I think we'd both agree abusing alcohol is bad, it's legal and there are still people abusing it or even using at low levels but still putting others at risk through things such as drink driving, with the issue being wider spread than if alcohol was banned. Legalising it doesn't make the problem go away. It just makes it easier for people to get it. If it's easier to get, more people will use and abuse it.
Unless you're arguing for zero gun controls, i don't see how that comment helps your case.
shakey jake
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BenBhoy
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Alcohol is a drug, a legal drug. Yeah you get some idiots who drink drive. If weed was legalised, it'd be the same (actually imo safer) as booze - some would be idiots & some wouldn't, just like drink drivers. I'd rather live next door to a bloke chilling with spliff & hearing him "giggle like a loon" rather than some ned who's been on Stella all day & gone wild.
Would need to be a meaningful ban with likelihood of being caught and significant consequences. I'd be more comfortable with that than legalising smoking but still don't like the idea. Still wouldn't stop my kids being exposed to fumes though as I doubt my neighbours would stop smoking at home unless there were significant consequences for it and it's also a mind altering substance which people are misusing so I still disagree in principle with legalising it and think it should remain banned.
It would be more logically consistent for me to then also argue against alcohol as well because of this (mind altering substance), but it is significantly easier to produce alcohol from scratch using readily available items than it is to produce cannabis (you need the seeds) so I draw a distinction.
Morkai
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The arguements on here that because something is illegal it is automatically bad, end of discussion, is quite entertaining.
You cant equate all your moral values to the law of the land, and if you do, it's quite worrying and blinkered.
If you are one of those people, would you automatically flip flop your morals if you went to somewhere like Colorado where it is legal?
I bet the vast majority on here agree morally with the right to have assisted dying. They may not carry out the act because it's illegal, but they do agree with it in principle.
You cant equate all your moral values to the law of the land, and if you do, it's quite worrying and blinkered.
If you are one of those people, would you automatically flip flop your morals if you went to somewhere like Colorado where it is legal?
I bet the vast majority on here agree morally with the right to have assisted dying. They may not carry out the act because it's illegal, but they do agree with it in principle.
shakey jake
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when people write this well, i regret my essex roots.
well said
Morkai
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Thank you very much.
BenBhoy
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Christ, you wanna be from Wales & then try think of something posh!!
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