Ahhh, Baguettes, unbeatable at Greggs.
Finally bade goodbye🫣
- Thread starter finnbear270
- Start date
Morkai
Well-Known Member
Ahhh, Baguettes, unbeatable at Greggs.
If MG Rover was still British they could have released a new Rover SD-1 Electric with a Greggs sausage roll holder.
It arrived from the Midlands with 65% charge on delivery, and I’m pretty sure it was standing for around a month at the dealers before the delivery guy jumped in it this morning, if we run it to 20% before re charging it will be a significant plunge in costs in relation to diesel re fill costs.
7p Kwh charge off peak (Twighlight hours).
Tyres/MOT’s/Recovery/etc all in.
F**K all I’m in charge of is monitoring brake fluid level & re fill screen wash!
you forgot the likely 2 year service interval
BenBhoy
Well-Known Member
Agreed, saw one on bright green other day, very nice looking little car (disclaimer: I know eff all about cars, and just buy cheapest poss & then break it!)
To buy & fit the charger we have, would be £1200, we paid a discounted £100.00 for the charger in with the deal from Octopus, as a current Octopus customer.
My brother and his daughter both have new ones and rave about them. When it comes time to replace my 2.0 DS, I’m seriously thinking of doing the same
Yeah he will need that. Living in DK where over 20% of cars on the road are electric we have hundreds of electric car fires each year, hundreds. Peoples houses burn down, lives are lost, it's terrible.
Oh no sorry that is complete bs. There were 50 in 2024, (1.2 per 10000 vehicles) but guess what the rate of fires in diesel and petrol cars was over 3 times as many in the same year. (3.8 per 10000 vehicles) So, which is safer?
enfieldspares
Well-Known Member
Yes. They could put a plastic box for them on top of the dashboard. Next to the plastic box that the speedo, tacho and other dials and guages were housed in. So two plastic boxes for the price of one. A friend's father had one. New. The 2600 version. Said it was without question the worst car his family or he have ever owned. He's now aged seventy so has had one or two cars to make that verdict from.
Last edited:
Morkai
Well-Known Member
That green is nice and bold. By all accounts it is a pretty good car.
Morkai
Well-Known Member
It's a Rover, I dont doubt him one bit.
scoby3030
Well-Known Member
Wifey has a Kia EV9, I was very sceptical about quoted mileage range but it is pretty damn accurate, same as the OP 7p kwh charging at night or free at work if I need it. I can do 2 weeks to work and back for @ £15. Obviously used for other stuff as well but my Ice car would be @ £50 for the same usage. Rush hour traffic. My next car will be an Ev.
shbangsteve
Well-Known Member
The diesel and petrol. Most can be extinguished unlike an EV.Yeah he will need that. Living in DK where over 20% of cars on the road are electric we have hundreds of electric car fires each year, hundreds. Peoples houses burn down, lives are lost, it's terrible.
Oh no sorry that is complete bs. There were 50 in 2024, (1.2 per 10000 vehicles) but guess what the rate of fires in diesel and petrol cars was over 3 times as many in the same year. (3.8 per 10000 vehicles) So, which is safer?
There is also the pay per mile cost which will come in sooner or later.
I am not anti EV, I may buy one myself, but these costs need to be factored in.
Yeah he will need that. Living in DK where over 20% of cars on the road are electric we have hundreds of electric car fires each year, hundreds. Peoples houses burn down, lives are lost, it's terrible.
Oh no sorry that is complete bs. There were 50 in 2024, (1.2 per 10000 vehicles) but guess what the rate of fires in diesel and petrol cars was over 3 times as many in the same year. (3.8 per 10000 vehicles) So, which is safer?
Not anti EV - BUT wait until they get older
John Gryphon
Well-Known Member
I don`t know if it is of much use but why not have solar cell panels fitted flush on the roof of every EV car,it has to help trickle a bit of elec in eh what? Drive car to work,car sits in sun all day (Oz) and tops up and of course whilst driving as well.
AI overview say stfup Griff lol.
Placing solar panels on the roof of every EV isn't standard because of physics and economics: a car-sized solar roof generates only enough power for a few kilometres of driving per day. For most drivers, the tiny amount of energy produced fails to justify the added manufacturing costs, weight, and complexity. [1, 2]
Here is a breakdown of why flush-mounted car solar isn't the silver bullet it seems:
While a handful of concept cars and niche models (like the Toyota Prius Prime or certain Lightyear designs) utilize solar panels, they are mostly used to trickle-charge the 12V battery or offset phantom power drains. From a sustainability and cost perspective, it is vastly more efficient to put solar panels on the roof of your house and charge your EV from your home grid
AI overview say stfup Griff lol.
Placing solar panels on the roof of every EV isn't standard because of physics and economics: a car-sized solar roof generates only enough power for a few kilometres of driving per day. For most drivers, the tiny amount of energy produced fails to justify the added manufacturing costs, weight, and complexity. [1, 2]
Here is a breakdown of why flush-mounted car solar isn't the silver bullet it seems:
- Limited Surface Area & Output: An average car roof provides just \(3\) to \(5\) square meters of space. Even with premium, highly efficient panels, this flat surface typically generates around \(300\) to \(500\) watts of power at peak sunlight. To put that in perspective, electric vehicles often consume roughly \(20\) kilowatts while cruising—meaning the panel produces only a small fraction of what the car actually needs to move.
- Impractical Charging Times: Charging an EV battery entirely via on-car solar would take anywhere from days to over a week of continuous direct sunlight. Instead of recharging the main battery, they generally act as "range extenders" or power auxiliary features like cooling the car while it's parked.
- Poor Angles and Shading: Solar panels operate best when angled directly toward the sun. Laying them flat and flush against a curved car roof drastically reduces their efficiency. Additionally, cars spend much of their time in garages, in the shade of buildings, or driving under clouds.
- Cost vs. Benefit: The expense of integrating flexible, durable solar cells, voltage controllers, and wiring into the vehicle's body is exceptionally high for very little return.
- Aerodynamics and Weight: EV manufacturers spend massive amounts of R&D optimizing a car's aerodynamic drag to maximize driving range. Adding solar hardware, protective coatings, and extra structural weight can actively consume more energy than the panel creates. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9]
While a handful of concept cars and niche models (like the Toyota Prius Prime or certain Lightyear designs) utilize solar panels, they are mostly used to trickle-charge the 12V battery or offset phantom power drains. From a sustainability and cost perspective, it is vastly more efficient to put solar panels on the roof of your house and charge your EV from your home grid
When they do go up, you're ****ed thoughYeah he will need that. Living in DK where over 20% of cars on the road are electric we have hundreds of electric car fires each year, hundreds. Peoples houses burn down, lives are lost, it's terrible.
Oh no sorry that is complete bs. There were 50 in 2024, (1.2 per 10000 vehicles) but guess what the rate of fires in diesel and petrol cars was over 3 times as many in the same year. (3.8 per 10000 vehicles) So, which is safer?
they take so much to put them out. Once we start seeing more on the roads, there will be more RTC's and thats when the batteries will go up. They burn for hours and they burn bloody hot too, often reigniting once they've been put out. Your petrol/diesel going up is neither here or there, they can be put out pretty quickly. They don't need specialist knowledge to disconnect wiring at a bump although its usually fire that attend and do it
We have recently switched to EV. I type we, I mean me. OH still has her Boxster.
Mileage over the past few years, since we moved to Wales, has dropped significantly.
We now live in the middle of nowhere (or a little bit of heaven) so no need to travel miles to get here.
5k, 5k, 3k, 4k and 3k over the last 5 years.
The China SUV EV has a range of 280mls on 85% charge - yes it does, I've tested it.
Salesman said this would drop to 240ish in cold weather - a future test.
I'm only 4 months into a 4 year test cycle. I'll have a clearer picture after the first 12 months but early indications are that it was a smart move - for us.
Mileage over the past few years, since we moved to Wales, has dropped significantly.
We now live in the middle of nowhere (or a little bit of heaven) so no need to travel miles to get here.
5k, 5k, 3k, 4k and 3k over the last 5 years.
The China SUV EV has a range of 280mls on 85% charge - yes it does, I've tested it.
Salesman said this would drop to 240ish in cold weather - a future test.
I'm only 4 months into a 4 year test cycle. I'll have a clearer picture after the first 12 months but early indications are that it was a smart move - for us.
So "free at work" is that a bik then and surely taxable in the long run?
I've never known my work give out free petrol in the past.
All these electric vehicle benefits, but if you take out the subsidies such as the £1100 charging point discount mentioned by the OP, are they really cost effective as a whole, depreciation etc included?
I can only see the working man being a slave to the domestic electrical bill in the future at the whim of the givernment/taxes/shareholders.
Not for me but you pays your money and takes your choice.
scoby3030
Well-Known Member
Not petrol, if a charging bay is free I can use it, simple as that. We have solar panels over @ 90% of the roof at work with battery storage as well.
As for being a slave to the electric bill, in the future I think everyone will be if we like it or not. Due to net zero , no gas supplies, no petrol /diesel cars being built and any other rules our leaders want to impose. Hopefully not in my lifetime but you never know.
As for being a slave to the electric bill, in the future I think everyone will be if we like it or not. Due to net zero , no gas supplies, no petrol /diesel cars being built and any other rules our leaders want to impose. Hopefully not in my lifetime but you never know.
