For Sale: 384x288 Thermal Scopes for £399

Harumph - I finally got my dyslexic brain in gear: focus is great on the scopeI The view through the near eye viwer is great. Its the video recording and hotspot thats the low focus I should have wrote.

This should have been a reply to Nick.308 - my brain fade again lol.
 
For a spotter where you just look for a heat source to Further explore with better optics, 384 isn’t ‘very low’. It’s on the bottom half by today’s standards, 160 and 256 are the ‘very low, 320 and 384 yeah, maybe ‘low’ 640 medium high and now 1280 is seen as the high.

It’s all in application and expectations as with all things in life. I wouldn’t shoot a CF for foxes with anything sub 640, the clarity fkr shot placement, animal positioning, etc just isn’t there to make it ethical. For rats and rabbits with a RF or AR, say, sub 50yds on base mag, 384 is probably a great little scope if on a budget.

Good value for money, relative to application and not expecting it to be good for nailing foxes at 470yds.
Can't agree with you HJ. I've been using my Thermion 2 with a 384 sensor for 5yrs on a 223 for foxes & no problem at up to 200+ yds. and often on base mag of 3.5 , occasionaly 7x.
 
So the gents at @Immersive Optics have got their front add‑on hardware nearly ready for sale, but as I already had the requisite bits sitting around, I thought I would have a go at setting it up myself.


First bits I used were the two items from Rusan:


krale.shop


krale.shop


But I believe that you can use the standard Hik‑issued adapters instead, if you can find them.


opticswarehouse.co.uk


opticswarehouse.co.uk


opticswarehouse.co.uk


Or one of these:


waidmann-shop.com


You then need one of the HIK‑issued adapters that allow the scope to become a front clip‑on. It 100% won’t work without one of these, and they are discontinued. I believe that, unless you are random like me, you are going to have to wait for @Immersive Optics to release their version later this month. This little adapter, apart from making the threads all function with the scope adapters above, also has a magnet that tells the unit to go into clip‑on mode.


When I got the whole thing built I had a fully working front clip‑on, but the image was a blur, making the image and menus unreadable. This is where @Immersive Optics really come into their own, because despite me going this alone and using all manner of bits that hadn’t been sourced from them (apart from the actual thermal), they have been providing a constant flow of support by email and phone for the last three days. In the end I had to strip apart the Hik conversion device with a very small Phillips head and a 0.9 mm Allen key and wind the magnifying lens in further to get a focused image. Once this was done everything worked perfectly. A quick image calibration by lining up the crosshairs, and I now have what must be the cheapest front clip‑on going at a total outlay of £504. New front clip‑ons from HIK, Nocpix and Pixfra all start at £1,300+ and you generally need to buy adapters on top of this cost for another £150‑ish.
 

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For a spotter where you just look for a heat source to Further explore with better optics, 384 isn’t ‘very low’. It’s on the bottom half by today’s standards, 160 and 256 are the ‘very low, 320 and 384 yeah, maybe ‘low’ 640 medium high and now 1280 is seen as the high.

It’s all in application and expectations as with all things in life. I wouldn’t shoot a CF for foxes with anything sub 640, the clarity fkr shot placement, animal positioning, etc just isn’t there to make it ethical. For rats and rabbits with a RF or AR, say, sub 50yds on base mag, 384 is probably a great little scope if on a budget.

Good value for money, relative to application and not expecting it to be good for nailing foxes at 470yds.

you have definitely never looked though a senopex a7 then

384 and will id a fox further then most 1280 available
 
you have definitely never looked though a senopex a7 then

384 and will id a fox further then most 1280 available
In that case, you are definitely welcome to post a video from the Senopex 384 here.
It just sounds odd that a 384×288 pixel sensor array could somehow capture a scene better than a 1280×920 pixel array. That would be something out of this world — although miracles do happen.

Video, please, if you don’t mind.
 
In that case, you are definitely welcome to post a video from the Senopex 384 here.
It just sounds odd that a 384×288 pixel sensor array could somehow capture a scene better than a 1280×920 pixel array. That would be something out of this world — although miracles do happen.

Video, please, if you don’t mind.
The Senopex A7 with it's 7x base mag is a very capable scope and out to crazy ranges. Used one for a good while before moving upto the S10, had no problems shooting fox out to 400 yards
 
In that case, you are definitely welcome to post a video from the Senopex 384 here.
It just sounds odd that a 384×288 pixel sensor array could somehow capture a scene better than a 1280×920 pixel array. That would be something out of this world — although miracles do happen.

Video, please, if you don’t mind.
very hard to show you what the image looks like on the senopex as the video quality is absolutely rubbish 😆. lots of vids on YouTube, just remember the image through the scope is alot better though

they have great target detail one night i was looking at a fox 750 yards away in good condition and you could see its tail bone

they have great target detail but a very washed out background detail
 
very hard to show you what the image looks like on the senopex as the video quality is absolutely rubbish 😆. lots of vids on YouTube, just remember the image through the scope is alot better though

they have great target detail one night i was looking at a fox 750 yards away in good condition and you could see its tail bone

they have great target detail but a very washed out background detail
75mm F1.0 objective - against 35mm F1.0 , do you think it is a fair comparison to put them side by side? How much is it?
 
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